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Pretzel Emotions: A musical journey through the images of life

September 18, 2015

One of the more prominent, though not as recognized (as Stevie or Earth, Wind & Fire) musical backgrounds in my life was the jazz-rock band Steely Dan. I remember hearing their jazzy tunes attributed to them in my early 20’s, probably on the “KISS Jazz” show (that NY’s “Kiss-FM” had on Sundays), and a few of them, before that, on other stations like WPIX. I remember buying both the album Aja, as well as fusion group Spyrogyra’s new release Alternating Currents, likely at Bondy’s on Park Row (the ornate old Potter Building), if not J&R on the next block. The title track “Aja” was a nice, flowing almost solid jazz tune on piano. (I believe it was hearing this one on the radio or a record store that led me to get the album in the first place. The fact that I got it as an LP rather than a cassette, as I did most music, such as the whole EWF collection I was beginning at the time, showed that I was already expecting a lot of good from the whole album. I had early on thought if I could ever slip in a tune of my own on my father’s Saturday jazz radio program still going on at the time; I would add that one, but he would never go for that, as he wouldn’t see it as true [older black] jazz).

I didn’t even remember what exactly I bought Spyrogyra for; I guess whatever I was hearing on the radio or in the store was interesting (with the whole “electronica” theme), but Steely Dan would slowly become a significant group. The album includes the hit “Peg”, whose chorus I always heard for years as “HEY; it will come back to you…”! It was like the perennial “New York state of mind” type of sound and, and all of the other jazzy/funky tracks (such as “Josie”, which like Peg has an Earth Wind & Fire-like funk feel, and “Deacon Blues”) remind me of lower Manhattan, though all their music was recorded in LA, and I’m seeing an interview where they’re saying it was a “California” sound that you could not picture being anywhere but from LA.
The album opens on the quickly changing smooth Fender Rhodes/Clavinet chords of “Black Cow” (and the chordal drop and changes leading to the bridge), which right away assured me it was a good buy, and I wouldn’t be sorry. (For some reason, it took me a very long time to appreciate or even remember really, the lesser songs of the album “Home at Last” and “I’ve Got the News”, but these are just as much the classic sound as the others).

I until probably that time did not know that the lead singer of this group was the guy (Donald Fagen, with the funny album cover pose with the cigarette in his hand) who had done “International Geophysical Year (What a Beautiful World)”, which I liked so much, I had gotten the 45 for. (The B side “Walk Through the Raindrops” didn’t move me, however).  I liked “On that train of graphite and glitter…”, and something about “spandex jackets for everyone” (had never even heard of spandex before). With just a cursory listening to the words, it totally seemed to be a random bunch of images, that had no coherent meaning.
I originally actually thought this was Stevie Wonder (especially with the harmonica solo or reasonable facimile, likely something called a “melodica“), as the voices are really not all that far apart, and after the smash hit “Do I Do” that summer, which I assumed would be part of an upcoming album in addition to the compilation it and three other new songs were apart of, I got totally “into” Stevie and began listening for new songs, and anything that sounded remotely similar I would take notice of.

Then, that winter, Thriller came out, and “Billie Jean” was playing heavily. I liked it, for it reminded me a bit of Curtis Mayfield’s “Little Child, Running Wild”, from Superfly, 10 years earlier (which I had been taken to see at a drive-in). At some point, Kiss began playing this mix of Billie Jean with an old song from the 70’s I remembered, which went something like “black jack, Do it Again“. ( My mother said she hated that mix). I had no idea this was from the same guy who did IGY, and the same group who did Peg. (The song had a similar harmony as the Doobie Brothers’ “Long Train Running”; both of which from the early 70’s, but I associate with the mid 70’s).

There was also “Hey Nineteen”, a [at the time] not too long ago song that was also pretty common.

Even less would I have imagined that this is also the group who did the old grungy rock song whose chorus I had always heard as “Realing in the East” (which was followed by “stowing away the time…”, and a very signature fast moving Celtic styled jig on guitar backed by tamborine beats). This song (which was actually on the same album as “Do it Again”) always reminded me of some gritty old barber shop with a dirty looking sunlit bathroom with peeling light green paint and an old sink, on Rogers near Empire my father took me to once or twice, on the way to either Grandma’s, or Cub Scouts (in Grandma’s church, Bethany Baptist. The barber we usually went to was further up, where Rogers merged with Bedford [and almost literally a stone throw from where my future wife was growing up], but this other one stuck in my mind, and the song, which I think I heard on the radio there was like a gritty background for it).
The same images became associated with Queen’s “Bohemian Rhapsody” for some reason. (The beginning part has a similar piano harmony as Reelin’ and the more uptempo section toward the end has a similar rhythm, called “shuffle rock” aka “swing”, where the groove consists of triplets, with the middle count blank, hence “1,_ a-2,_ a-3,_ a-4. It is technically 12/16 time, but almost always gets written as the “Common” 4/4, with the odd numbered [sub]-beats compressed on the staff into what are called “triplets”).

Growing up on the Beatles’ Abbey Road, a song’s lyrics or title did not have to have any meaning, so I never questioned that as the actual words, though I would later wonder what the lyrics of both groups meant, especially after hearing that some Beatles lyrics (like “Lucy in the Sky”) were [cryptic] “veiled references” to drugs (and I imagine, sex).

Exploring the group’s progression in sound

When beginning to look at Steely Dan albums in stores, I would see all the weirdly themed album and track titles, and wonder what they were about. (“Razor Boy”? “Fire in the Hole”? “Your Gold Teeth” —with a second part, two albums later?) As a young Christian, I was probably afraid to to try them out by buying more albums. I did see “Do it Again” and “Reeling in the Years” on their first album (titled ‘Can’t Buy a Thrill’ and graced with hookers on a seedy street). But I didn’t even realize that they were those very familiar songs. (The latter made me think of Simply Red’s recent hit “Holding Back the Years”, and so I imagined it as a sad kind of ballad).
The second album, “Countdown to Ecstasy” (whose artwork reminded me a bit of Stevie’s contemporaneous “Innervisions”) had a song “Bodhisattva”, which I recognized was an Eastern religion concept.

The title track to the next album, “Pretzel Logic”, I first heard in the 1991 live version (with Michael McDonald who was once apart of the band for awhile, doing the last verse, about stepping on the platform and explaining where he got his shoes) that used to play on the CD101 station (Former WPIX-FM).

This began raising interest in the group, for its very jazzy “chordal changes”, which were the audible “hooks” in music that gained my attention the most. This is what Stevie had a great handle on, when he finally perfected his sound in the second contract, working with “TONTO” engineers Margouleff and Cecil, and including Talking Book, which I had grown up with. Even before hearing the term “jazz-rock”, as applied to Steely Dan or anyone else, I had thought of that album as “jazz-rock” (to contrast one of his first albums, The Jazz-Soul of Little Stevie Wonder. So this was the “Jazz-Rock of Big Stevie Wonder”!), and why I liked it so much. It was of course basically soul or R&B, with touches of funk as well. But songs like “Maybe Your Baby” were definitely rock infused, and even the two main hits “Superstition” and “You Are the Sunshine” were basic top-40 staples that blended in with contemporary “rock”. As time went on, he became more strictly R&B, and less rock-like or jazzy.

So Steely Dan was also similar to that period of Stevie and others TONTO worked with at the time such as the Isleys, in generally having no orchestration. (The only ones that have a string orchestra are “Through With Buzz” on Pretzel logic[and I think “Charlie Freak” sounds like it has a violin/cello as well, but it might be a synth or something], and “FM (No Static)”, which was a special song made for a movie and not on a studio album. Some others; and few at that, such as “Josie”, have synth strings, and a few have Moogs or Moog-like background sounds!)

So “Pretzel Logic” starts out sounding a bit like a slower version of “Reeling in the Years”, with the grungy rock guitar sound over repeating
blues”-style vocal lines, but when it gets to the chorus, you suddenly out of nowhere get this jazzy set of ascending chord pairs consisting of a higher one, then a lower one; which repeats three times; the third time accompanied by the words “those days are gone forever, over a long time ago”, and backed by horns later on, which were nearly absent in the previous albums. This was clearly the kind of sound I was familiar with on Aja, (and reminded me of Stevie’s early Contract 2 stuff I liked so much). It was also something heavily resembling the later [disco era] fusion jazz such as Bob James’ “Westchester Lady” and Natalie Cole’s “La Costa” (and also slightly evokes even Stephanie Mills’ “Two Hearts”) and so seemed a bit ahead of its time.

So [again], this began raising some interest in the group. (I more recently find another song, performed in concert at the same time this was released, called “This All Too Mobile Home”, which also sounds like the previous stuff but fades on those same or similar chords in a similar up/down repetition).
I eventually began hearing “Rikki Don’t Lose That Number” (the album opener; a similar song, which opens on a Latin piano riff nearly identical to Horace Silver’s “Songs of My Father”, which as a frequent jazz favorite of my father, was a household staple. It’s so close, that in today’s litigious climate, it would have been a definite copyright infringement case! On the Wikipedia entry, it seems this entire trio of my favorite groups borrowed from it, with the opening horn statement shaping Stevie’s descending vocal chords in “Don’t You Worry Bout A Thing”, and also the opening bass chords being used in EWF’s “Clover”. Neither of these last two I had caught; having forgotten about “Songs of My Father” after awhile. “Rikki” is a dead ringer, and in the back of my mind, it obviously rang the bell of some old jazz tune).
Its chorus shares some of the same chords as the chorus of “Aja”, and also being another one of those mysterious titles I remembered, that you wonder what could possibly mean.

And then afterward I heard the similar “Doctor Wu” from the next album (with it’s theme of a lying girl named “Katy”, represented on the cover by a katydid insect. I heard the references to “Katy” first, which along with the sound made it evident what album it was from, and when it got to the chorus, “oh, so that’s what that was”!)

It wasn’t until very late in the game, perhaps in the latter days of the old “Downstairs Records” in Midtown, where you could play 45’s on a turntable, that I ventured to try out some Steely Dan singles, and began to learn what was what. (That IIRC is where I tried out “Reelin'” and was totally shocked; even more this time, “that’s what that was? That was them?” “Do It Again” too likely).
Then, it figured that all of this stuff from “Reeling” to “IGY” featured that same lead vocalist, and had some of the same musical and lyrical techniques, even the earliest works, though, not as refined as later.

They are even credited for what has become their own distinctive class of chords, the “mu [µ] chord”, which would be the common thread throughout their career. It of course existed before, and was used by jazz artists and others, but picked up by the band to enrich sounds as an alternative to full jazz chords (Wikipedia). It’s defined as basically adding a “second” interval [i.e. note] between the first and third in the chord. It could also be a ninth, which is a second raised by an octave.

According to the site, there are two versions; type I, more prominent in the first four albums, which will often create part of what I’m calling a more “country” sound (the “Old Steely Dan”), and type II in the later albums (what I consider “Classic” Steely Dan, of ’76-80; and “New Steely Dan” [the group’s re-gathering in the early 2000’s]).
The difference between the two is in which note in the chord is played in a “bass” (i.e. left hand) octave. An example of the former is the country-esque “I’d like to run out there” in “Fire in The Hole”, and the intro and chorus to “Reelin'” is “built around” two of these chords. The latter is most well known in the chorus sequence “call me Deacon Blues and always one of my favorites: “it’s over now” in “Black Cow” This was the perennial “Steely Dan sound” to me. YouTube piano tutor Tyler Thompson says that the Dsus2/9 or DF#EAD on “camera” in “Peg” is another example of the “Steely Dan chord”. Meanwhile. “Aja” ends up as a type I mu song, with “they just don’t care” given as an example. Even though it is obviously the overall “new” sound for them, I can now see where it really consists of some of the older style chords, just played in a new way; just like its predecessor song “Rikki”).

I had marveled how vastly different, at first glance, the 1974 singles and later stuff sounded from those singles from 1972. I eventually hear this song with these soft vocals sounding something like one of the Beatles, and hard Fender Rhodes chords greatly evoking Three Dog Night’s “Joy to the World”, and the country-like chorus reveals that this is “Dirty Work”, the second song on the first album. (Not sure whether I ever heard it as a child, but it sure fit in with those years. It has a totally different lead vocalist, and so doesn’t sound like them at all).

So then I’m interested in where exactly it changed. The “Bodhisattva” track (which may have been the only single from that album at Downstairs when I first looked; later had to sneak the whole album to the turntable) was like neither here nor there. It overall sounded different from either the first album or the ones after. Some aspect of the chordal structure does resemble “Pretzel Logic”; the verse chords being nearly the same, and using the same “blues”-style four part up and down structure, but the chorus chords, while also having a similar up and down progression, sounding totally different. It opens with these two alternating very jazzy piano chords, then a guitar solo that would evoke “Reeling”, but then becomes something like emulating a 50’s style rock or swing song (it uses the fast version of the shuffle rhythm), and its chorus (“show me the shine of your Japan, the sparkle of your China…”[??!!!]), has distinctive chordal changes that again, are different from either the works before or after, and in a way reminds me of parts of Stevie’s contemporaneous “Don’t You Worry Bout a Thing” for some reason, or perhaps chords of the chorus to “Josie”, which themselves are very similar to the ones in the cadence of the “Odd Couple” theme.

So it looked like they were trying to change their sound, and since I see that that album did poorly, they continued to try to refine it. (This one seems to fall more on the side of the first album. And even some of the other songs on Pretzel Logic still follow suit). Most of them are like perhaps very primitive, rudimentary versions of “Deacon Blues” from Aja (i.e. same basic rhythm, but the earlier instrumentation); or standard contemporary 70’s soft rock (Elton John, etc.) with more of a country-rock sound, still.
The closest thing to the later sound on the first album is the closing track “Turn That Heartbeat Over Again”; especially in the instrumental interlude, which has some chordal progressions that do greatly foreshadow “Aja”, but otherwise sounds clearly like something Stevie would have done under TONTO the same year. (Also noteworthy for this song is the catchy bridge “Love your mama. Love your brother. Love ’em till they… run for cover. Turn the light off. Keep your shirt on. Cry a jag on me“). “Fire In the Hole”, while not totally like the later sound, still does sort of foreshadow it with the different chords, as does the opening chords of “Midnite Cruiser”.

(Meanwhile, Elton’s John’s contemporaneous hit “Benny and the Jets” has the key feature I would associate with the later Steely Dan sound: the up and down chordal progression in the instrumental part of the chorus, which resembles something like the instrumental interlude on “Aja”; —in addition to the obscure song title reference!)

Funny, should mention in passing, that in the 90’s, when I was inquiring about Chicago, from remembering their “Does Anyone Really Know What Time It Is” and “Beginnings” from when I was really young, one friend, who was then my supervisor, blurted out that she “hated them”, and then out of nowhere threw in Steely Dan as well. “I HATE Chicago, and I HATE Steely Dan!!!” I was surprised, as I hadn’t mentioned the latter, but had already long liked them, and I found it funny that she would throw in this other group I was into, on top of the former, like that.
I did not think of the two groups as having anything to do with each other, but thinking about it, I could see where there are some similarities, epecially earlier on. (Both were “jazzy”). Both groups changed their sound significantly, but in totally different directions; Chicago becoming a big vehicle for David Foster, with his 80’s pop sound).

The transition from a kind of countryish flavor to a jazzy sound was very interesting and somewhat unique! There were always the distinctive chordal changes from the earliest albums, but they were more subdued, and not as jazzy or refined as in Pretzel Logic and after.
The closest thing in the second album I would say is the chorus of “Your Gold Teeth”, with the verses sounding like a cross between “Do It Again”, and the Stylistic’s following year semi-hit “Heavy Falling Out”, but then has this sudden, surprise chord change with “see how they roll” (which also sounds like an obvious knockoff of the Beatles’ “Lady Madonna”; [“see how they run“], though in a totally different key). It then has a bridge (about growing tobacco in Peking) which experiments with a bunch of different chords, and each line ending in a pair of syllables he stretches out over two chords (“sad—thing”; “can’t—sing”; like “A—Ja” or “F—M” on those songs, and some half measures, to throw some extra interesting “flow” into the rhythm. This is a new technique that would become a signature sound.

These interludes and bridges are a definite part of their sound, being quite often the testing ground for all sorts of new chords and progressions.
“Razor Boy” seems to be inching toward the later sound as well. Particularly the characteristic long flowing chorus, like we would hear on later songs. That was a signature style of theirs, squeezing a lot of words in a limited number of beats or measures. That’s been the catchiest song I’ve heard in all the older stuff I’m becoming familiar with:

Will you still have a song to sing— when the razor boy comes and takes your fancy things away?… Will you still keep singing it on that cold and windy day?
(five measures for each question!)

Both of these songs also remind me of Stevie’s “You Are the Sunshine” with the Latin rhythm, and especially the Rhodes in the former, and particularly the bridge (with the chords) in that song. Razor Boy, with the acoustic piano and the beat-less intro is also very similar to the song Syreeta sang for Stevie’s Journey Through The Secret Life of Plants, “Come Back As A Flower”.
The interlude and end of album closer “King of the World” is definitely the Stevie/Syreeta/TONTO sound with both the Moog and the TONTO style up and down Fender chords. (Think “Take A Little Trip”, performed by Minnie Riperton, which was written and produced by them; along with Stevie’s own “Superwoman”. Parts of the chorus, when it goes from “king of the world” to “far as I know” remind me of the later direction of the group as well, the way the words are squeezed in against the rhythm. The chord progression on “King” and “world” sound that way as well, with particularly “world” and its guitar backing sounding like one of the four chords used in the end of the intro to “Josie”. But instead of the progression continuing to ascend, giving the distinctive sound of that song, it drops back down to the “country” sound, with “far as I know”. While the above sites don’t mention either “King of the World” or “Josie” as far as the mu chords, Countdown To Ecstasy is all type I, so that’s probably what these are; and it’s similar to part of “Don’t Take Me Alive”, which is listed as using type I’s, even though it too, like “Josie” is in type II territory).

“My Old School” is the old style, but has an interlude that includes a few connecting piano chords that remind me of late 70’s/early 80’s harmonic techniques, as found in Brick’s “Ain’t Gonna Hurt Nobody” or Kool and the Gang’s “Get Down On It”.

In addition to the very jazzy pair of alternating chords on the opening of “Bodhisattva”, the same two chords are part of a repeating four chords (per measure; one on each beat) that make up the music for “Show Biz Kids” (The way the singing goes to this, it’s almost like a rap!)
So when initially flipping through the album years ago, and hearing these songs, that’s what gave me the impression that it was inching toward the later sound. The piano chords in other songs in these first two albums are clearly a “rock” piano style, but now, the chords are starting to get more jazzy.

So Pretzel Logic is where they found the chord change style they wanted, and they continued to refine it, leading up to Aja. But initially still with a heavier guitar presence, so the verses still resemble the grungy sound of “Reeling in the Years” a bit.
“Charlie Freak” was like a direct followup to “Reeling”; same shuffle rhythm, a bit heavier on the piano; melody sounds like an old church chant, like “O Come, O Come, Emmanuel”, and with “jingle bells” replacing the tamborines of the previous song. (As there are prototypical early recordings of it on special collection albums, it was something written earlier. It’s about a homeless guy who, close to death, has his fancy 3 oz. pure gold ring altruistically bought by the singer, but then buys drugs with the money, OD’s and dies, and the buyer gives him back the ring at the wake).
“Night By Night” also has a new, jazzier sound (enough to fit on Aja, actually), with the horns, and jazzed up chorus. (I imagine its original conception might have sounded a lot like “Kings” from the first album).

East St. Louis Toodle-oo is a funny sounding instrumental with a voice-bag like sound (probably a synth) filling in for vocals. It’s actually a remake of an old Duke Ellington tune. I only knew this from seeing the songwriter credit. As with Stevie and EWF, they are so original, that there are very few remakes of others’ works.

“Parker’s Band” has an interesting succession of chords in its bridge (which resemble ones Stevie might use, but done rapidly; “We will spend a dizzy weekend smacked into a trance. Me and you will listen to a little bit of what made the preacher dance“). “With A Gun” sounds like it was straight up made for an old TV Western. “Any Major Dude Will Tell You” is also kind of neither the previous nor emerging sound, but rather resembles the contemporaneous Isleys under TONTO with the Rhodes chords. Members of future band Toto were involved in the song, explaining why the structure of its chorus also resembles that group’s soulful hit “Waiting For Your Love”, which would play on R&B station KISS eight years later. Album closer “Monkey In Your Soul” is similar with its funky Stevie-like Rhodes chords, but then has these four descending chords leading to the chorus (afterwards overlaid with horns), which is like the prototypical “Deacon Blues” sound.

So while this album was still experimenting, the following album is where the change really occurs and takes hold. “Black Friday”, has the same “shuffle rock” style as “Reelin'” and “Charlie Freak”, but has the newer styled multiple chordal changes in the chorus. “Bad Sneakers” (“….with a pina coladamyfriend…”) strongly foreshadows “Deacon Blues”, and “Chain Lightning” has the same chords as “New Frontier”, from the 80’s solo album.
So where previous songs “Rikki”, “Pretzel Logic” and “All Too Mobile Home” are old sounding songs with the newer harmonic sound in only parts of the song (chorus or fadeout), now we have more cases where the whole song employs the newer sound.

The “Your Gold Teeth” followup also sounds nothing like part 1; it actually sounds a lot like “Razor Boy” or even “Reelin'”, retooled to an alternating 9/8 and 6/8 time. Same basic scale in the chorus, though with different, newer styled opening chords. This opening section uses a rhythm that would have fit in with the first “Gold Teeth”, and features the new styled jazzy (“Aja”-like) piano chord changes, but then suddenly (right in the middle of the instrumental “intro”, still) turns into the different rhythm with the older styled piano chords.
The intro was actually redone from a live performance of the new track the previous year ( and that would be their last live performance until the 90’s!) The whole piece is instrumental, and basically repeats that statement (and has the same Moog sound over it), until the middle, where it becomes a mostly bass groove with guitar solo and resembles, to me, the early live versions of Stevie’s “Contusions” (being performed right around the same time). It also sounds a lot like what I call “Neo-Ellis”, which is the style cartoon scorer Ray Ellis would develop the following years in shows like “Tarzan”, the third season of “Shazam”, or “The New Adventures of Batman”.

The performance being in early ’74, to promote the release of Pretzel Logic, it was probably conceived as expanding upon the first song (previous album), particularly the “one roulade you—can’t sing” part with the beat change (like possibly an extended jam session of it; and this version did open with a Rhodes, like the first song). So when recording Katy Lied, they for some reason built it up into a new song (and it’s the only one on the album actually copyrighted 1975; the others are 1974 or older) yet oddly done in the older style they were moving away from; and then tacked on a single phrase of the original as the intro on rather than write the new words over the whole original tune.
(Perhaps that older style tune was taken from some other song idea, and they just put it all together, making it the ‘new’ “Your Gold Teeth II”. The rather short lyrics do look like something written in a hurry and then framed into the reused “throw out your gold teeth and see how they roll” plot. Considering it seems the performances of the instrumental jam were always followed by “Reelin'” in the ’74 concerts; maybe it was an actual throwback to that song. The four rapid ascending piano chords leading to the chorus are nearly identical to the ones opening each verse of “Reelin”).

“Daddy Don’t Live In That New York City No More”, at first sounds neither here nor there, when skipping through it, but upon paying more attention, is like a slower precursor to the funk sound of “Josie”.

“Rose Darling” is the square remnant of the older sound.
“Throw Back The Little Ones” has a jazzy new style horn opening in different key, which then turns into an older sounding verse and a sort of “hybrid” sounding chorus with newer sounding chords connecting them; capped off by the country-esque “and gently squeeze them”.

In “Any World That I’m Welcome To”, the chorus is definitely old style, but the piano playing in the opening chords, and the verses have been jazzed up. (An earlier “demo” of this, on a synthesizer, [oddly evoking the 80’s sound of Van Halen’s “Jump”] and missing the newer elements is on YouTube).
The verse style actually resembles “Razor Boy”, where its deeper chords centered on the first beat of the measure, and the more jazzy rhythm with heavier bass. (But the actual chords themselves are even a bit more jazzy than on “Razor Boy”).

When I first heard “Razor Boy” it echoed the new sound because the piano and vocal style I’m discussing reminded me of “Rikki”, which I considered the new style because of the chorus. But in actuality, that song is closer to the old style, outside of the more melodic “Aja”-like first line of the chorus. The verses and even the rest of the chorus are more in the vein of “Reelin'” (as is the verses of “Pretzel Logic”), and the steel pedal guitar is even still present, providing that “country” flavor. (This was so prominent on the first two albums).

I at first thought of this as totally the “new” sound, but it was actually a “transitional” style beginning with “Razor”, and basically ending with “Any World”.
Though I consider it “transitional”, from the album timeline, a few if not many “pre-band demo” songs that are presumably from before the first album, such as “A Little With Sugar”, “Stone Piano”, “Minor from China”* [which resemble Carol King’s “It’s Too Late” a bit] and especially “Old Regime” are kind of similar to this. Imagine “late 60’s” styled version of the Katy Lied album.
*Most copies of “Minor From China” on YouTube and even on the compilation CD’s available on Rhapsody are labeled “Yellow Peril”, and another one with that name is a song also known as “As Long As You Go Where I Go”. A big mistake that has appeared on nearly all the demo albums, is the labeling of the original “Caves of Altamira” as “Android Warehouse”. But as you can hear here, that was really a totally different song (and one that also, really sounds like their later style! Becker and Fagen: Cosmic Forces is the only collection coming up on Rhapsody that has the correct track. Legends Collection’s Steely Dan Collection (2000) also has both tracks separately).

The closest thing to this particular piano and rhythm style on the first album is “Brooklyn”, but the overall sound ends up as the most “country”-fied piece in their whole repertoire (with the steel pedal guitar, and the same vocalist who did “Dirty Work”. Ironic, that that’s how a song about Brooklyn would sound!) There’s also “Turn That Heartbeat Over Again”, but it sounds different from these other songs because it’s a Fender Rhodes rather than an acoustic piano. “Only A Fool Would Say That” has a rhythm and chordal structure similar to those songs as well, but uses jazz guitars instead of an acoustic piano, and so sounds rather different.

What I’m thinking happened, was that I’m considering the “Pretzel-Logic/Katy Lied ‘transition‘” sound was their original style all along, but to get their first record deal, they had to change it to what we got in the first album (and the two songs left off of it: the very countrified “Dallas” and the “Cheers” theme-like “Sail the Waterway”). This is likely the sort of thing they were protesting in a few songs, as we shall see. Once in the door, they then began to move back to their true style, which proved itself for them! (And then from there, they continued to move on).

The distinctive sound of these songs is created largely by the type I mu chords. (I should add that another sound some of them resembles is the Vince Guaraldi background score for Peanuts specials, which used a similar piano jazz. An example is the pair of chords after the second line in the verses of “Rikki”. “Gold Teeth II” has been compared to the “Skating” waltz used on “Charlie Brown Christmas” and “A Boy Named Charlie Brown”. The Thanksgiving special and others from around that time also use similar chords). In the next album, “converted” old songs will be changed even further, especially with the advent of the type II chord.

Already, with Dr. Wu, you have a totally jazzy playing, with chords spread out more, and pretty much like the upcoming “Aja” track.

The box set “Citizen Steely Dan” (which has all seven of the bands initial albums, plus the “FM” track and two others; played one album after the other on Rhapsody and had to scratch around to find “FM”; before realizing they were all on that set, in order) has both the ’75 album version of “Everyone’s Gone To the Movies”, plus an earlier demo version, and you can see right in one song, the transformation from the “Old Steely Dan” sound to the new one; updated from the old country-rock sound, to a sort of calypso style. (Even more dramatic is what would be done to another one of these songs on the following album).
The 1990’s live album Alive In America (marking the band getting back together for the new millennium) has a performance of “Reelin'” updated with type II mu chords added (in addition to horns), giving it a bit of that “Peg”/”Black Cow”/”Deacon Blues” sound (and also brings to mind EWF’s “September”, Anita Baker’s “Giving You The Best That I Got” and others), and now it clearly sounds more like the group I was familiar with. (And it’s really only a slight change in the sound of the chords. Pretty amazing!)

By the ’76 album, Royal Scam, the new sound was completely in place. The transition is still progressing, however, as you can still make out elements of the old style under the new style, particularly in the chorus vocals and the general piano playing (with chords played on the beat, which was where “Any World I’m Welcome To” had been upgraded):
The Caves of Altimira
Sign In Stranger
even the Fez; particularly the piano intro

“The Caves Of Altimira” is actually one of those ’68-71 pre-SD songs, and the original is on YouTube, and it’s of course similar to the first album, but it’s still amazing to see the transition, of how it’s the same song and basic rhythm, but the chords and vocals have been modified into the late 70’s sound (most likely type II mu’s), with a bit of that “TONTO” or “King of the World fadeout” style touch in the chorus end progression. The added horns over these chords even produce a strong “Chicago” motif; so there‘s a connection between the two groups for me! And the chorus vocals are rather EWF-ish as an added bonus! (The piano/horn chords over the first two lines of the verses is that basic “Aja album” sound, and the second pair of lines have been stepped up in key to lead to the chorus, where in the original, they sounded the same as the first two lines.

There was also a whole verse dropped from the original:
“Many years had come and gone,
and many miles between.
Through it all, I found my way
by the light of what I’d seen.
On the road as I returned
was a green and yellow sign,
saying ‘See the way it used to be’,
and I took my place in line.”

In the album version and all covers, it jumps into the following verse, of him being inside this museum already, disappointed, and then leaving. It’s easy to miss the point of him being in a museum without this missing verse; it sounds like he’s still describing what he was seeing in the cave).

“Everything You Did” is like the opposite, where the intro and verses sound clearly like an old song, right off of the first two albums with the piano playing, and slight country feel (especially the steel pedal guitar even still being around!), but with the sudden change to new style chords added to the chorus.

I never knewwwwwwww you; You were a rollllerskater; You gonna show me later…

This was actually a harmonic/vocal style that would basically be expanded in the chorus of “Peg”, and then become popular in the early 80’s, like DeBarge “Can’t Stop”, or D-Train’s stuff, or especially Phil Collins’ “Easy Lover”.

The box set sticks in a song between albums, “Here in The Western World”, said to be from the same year, but not on the album. It’s clearly the older style. (Complete with the steel pedal guitar. Another example of that “transitional” style of playing I was mentioning, but without any adaptation to the new style, like the other songs from this period). Probably really something older, (though I see one site saying it was from the Royal Scam sessions, and the vocals do seem contemporary to that album).

The “Western” entry on this album (it was like a running theme in these earlier projects, like ’74’s “With A Gun”) was “Don’t Take Me Alive”. (Which is like an evolution of the “Do It Again/Your Gold Teeth” family, but with a group of ascending mu chords in the verses that would figure prominently in the upcoming “Josie”; i.e. “you’re out there… With rage in your eyes and your megaphones”.
I’m not sure if I had ever heard it back then, though the chorus sounds a bit familiar, especially “Got a case of dynamite, I can hold up here all night” (which I’m sure had reminded me among other things, of the standoff scene on the “Nagging Suspicion” episode of “Emergency” as I discuss on the Five Points article), and it clearly would have fit on the radio, as “Do it Again” was still pretty much playing a lot in those days, so that I associated it more with the middle of the decade).

By Aja, the sound was totally refined, so that any connection to the old style is completely buried. If the original version of any of these songs had been demo’d in the older style, it would be very interesting to hear what they sounded like! But already, I see that “Deacon Blues” was said to be written in ’76, so that was likely its original sound. (The old “Caves of Altamira”, whose remake resembled “Home At Last” on Aja, would give a sense of what similar new songs would have sounded like. As would the cover of “Dr. Wu” by the Minutemen, which is that older guitar sound rather than jazzy piano. Not sure if this was actually derived from an earlier version of the song, or just their own “retro” interpretation of it.
Again, this transformation is truly fascinating!)

It seems that in the previous two albums, having found the sound they wanted, they were cleaning out the old songs they wanted to release that needed to be adapted (and there were many more that were not released), and with Aja, started afresh with the new production. Several popular jazz musicians were even brought in, to further spruce it up. (And Michael McDonald’s voice stands out in the background singing of the bridge on “I Got The News”).

This is why I found the earlier stuff so vastly different, and I still find myself in almost unbelief that “Peg” is by the same band that did “Reelin'”! 

The earlier “rock” sound was of course highlighted by rock guitars (and also the group vocals). They from the beginning had acoustic piano, electric piano (likely the Fender Rhodes), and bass, but in adopting a more jazzy sound, the guitars began to fade to the background (especially with many of the original band members leaving after the first few albums) or just interlude solos, as done in other jazzy styles, and the bass and keyboards became more prominent, and horns eventually added.
In “Aja” and “Peg” and others, the earlier style guitar sound can be heard in solos during the instrumental section of the songs.

While heavily using shuffle rhythms earlier on, they had moved away from this, but drummer Bernard Purdie convinced them to record “Home At Last” in his own variation of it called the “Purdie Shuffle” which used a “cut time” (2/2) drum rhythm rather than the common time. So the groove is pretty much the regular tempoed 4/4, but the backbeat is only on beats 1 and 3 (one __ THREE ___ one ____ THREE…), and the 16th notes remain triplets, of course. This would also be used on the upcoming “Babylon Sister”. (By contrast, cut time is also what’s used in many older songs, like “Fire In The Hole”, and also that slower instrumental part of “Aja” with the guitar solos, but the groove under it is regular eighths rather than 16ths triplets, so it’s not a shuffle, but it is the same tempo).

Entering the 80’s, in the final initial band album after Aja, (Gaucho), the overall style remained similar, but inching toward the IGY sound with more prominent electric (or combination of electric and acoustic) piano “whole” note chords and reggae-inspired grooves and harmonica/melodica solos.
“Babylon Sister” I first heard in one of the weeks ending ’88 and beginning ’89, in boot camp. It was a quiet Sunday, we were far along in our training enough that the instructors could take the weekends off, and the dorm chief was in charge. They had the instructor’s radio (in his little office) on, and this song with these far stretching deep Rhodes chords jumping all over the place was playing, and I at first thought to myself eagerly, “What’s that?”, but then instantly figured it was something by Steely Dan or Donald Fagen, and when it got to the chorus, I immediately recognized it as another one of those strange titles I had seen on the albums. The chords are so up and down and sideways that I had had a hard time even being able to retain the verse part of the song. It is clearly the pinnacle of the sound they developed, and light years ahead of even anything even on Aja.

The title track actually is a step back, sounding more neutral (aside from the jazzy horns), like some of the transitional period songs, until the chorus, where the chord steps up.
Otherwise, with the final polish on the sound, Fagen had hit his plateau, (basically one of common “fusion jazz”, or what would eventually be called “smooth” or “cool” jazz) and as such, this album is basically what all remaining productions (solo or the band’s regroup in the new millennium) would pretty much sound like. (Without any really commercial sounding hits like “Peg”, “Hey Nineteen” or “IGY”, with more of a heavy bass rhythm sound and the chordal “hooks” often mainly in the chorus, and the vocals greatly mellowed down as in cool jazz, compared to the almost “shouting” style in the aforementioned songs).

“Glamour Profession” was their nod to the more commercialized “disco” rhythm concluding at that time, though done in the new deep Fender chord style of the album (and like Babylon Sister, is all over the place with new chords; many of which I associate with various tunes over the next decade, in the R&B-jazz fusion style emerging then. Should be mentioned that 1976’s “Kid Charlemagne” represented the earlier slower disco groove of that period).
There’s also a bunch of unreleased stuff on Youtube from the same album session, and it too is remarkable! “Kulee Baba” is similar to “Glamour Profession”, and “Second Arrangement” is like a definite followup to “Deacon Blues”, and reportedly had a studio production tape erased, likely leading to its shelving and being replaced by the more mellow pop-sounding “Third World Man”.

This is pretty much what the name “Steely Dan” had always been associated with to me. They were initially in the same category as “Spyrogyra”, whom, recall, I first bought together. Yet, seeing their full history now, it did fit in as a “rock group” kind of name. The first album cover even had a sort of large script logo font the band name was printed in, like other rock groups pretty much (so it looked like a typical 70’s “rock” album, and the lips/mouth connected to the logo evokes the Rolling Stones), but that whole look was dropped, and in every album afterward, the band name appeared in small plan text; often the same or similar font as the album title, and often in smaller print. (Basically, like a jazz album.
So looking at it from the other angle, seeing the first album with its big logo, and hearing the songs on it, thus partially re-associating the name of the group to an old rock format; it then becomes hard to believe they would evolve into this “smooth” jazz style of Gaucho and afterward).

Also, around this time in my life was Grover Washington’s remake of “Time Out of Mind”; the original also from that album. Not sure if I had heard the original before, but this remake still sounded just like them, the giveaway being the horns over “cherry wine”, which sounded so “Deacon Blues”, “Black Cow” or “Peg”-like.

I had also actually thought Michael Frank’s “Your Secret’s Safe With Me” was Steely Dan, to the point of having even hoped to find it on Aja (or perhaps Nightfly)). I only remembered the jazzy chorus from that song, and thought I remembered the verses as sounding like Deacon Blues or perhaps Home At Last, so I listened for those songs to turn into it on the chorus, and it wouldn’t have been too surprising, with the way chords change. (It may have better been led into by “Bad Sneakers”).
I then figured it might be somewhere on the other albums, but then began hearing it frequently on CD101, which is how I found out its true artist. (The band’s other founder, Walter Becker did work with Franks, but that was later, after the album this song was on came out). Other songs I had remembered by sound and not title along with that was “New Frontier” (with its prominent acoustic/electric piano chords) and “The Goodbye Look” (which resembled “The Shaker Song” by Spyrogyra and Manhattan Transfer), which of course turned out to be on the first Fagen solo album.

Raps that would sample Steely Dan songs are Lord Tariq & Peter Gunz “Deja Vu” (the opening to Black Cow), and De La Soul “Eye Know”, which takes the vocal “I know I love you better” and a clip of the horns from “Peg”, and while I thought the guitar was taken from that too, it and the other horns the follow as if they were from the same source were actually from the beginning of The Mad Lads’ “Make This Young Lady Mine”, and it also includes a whistle sample from Otis Redding’s “Sittin’ On The Dock of the Bay”. Organized Konfusion’s “Walk Into the Sun” alternates the “Green Earrings” riff (rap verses) with EWF’s instrumental groove “Runnin'” (chorus).
Christian singer Gary Oliver was a bit influenced by the IGY sound, in the song “Walk in the Light (Follow the Son)”, even down to the horns. Christian a-capella group Take-6 (who I pretty much had everything by) covered IGY on the title track of their 2002 album Beautiful World, where they turned it into a Christian song. I a couple years later was using that album as my wake up alarm when having really early jobs from the distant Coney Island Yard, and they start the song off arguing for Creation over evolution; which is a strong Adventist arguing point. (This is a bit of a great irony, especially considering what would come out from Fagen the year after this song, as we shall see later).

The production of music is fascinating, and this makes me so wish I could master it, which is nearly impossible on the Autism spectrum, at least for me. Here he even shows you how he steps up the chords from something plainer! There’s even some “gospel” chords in there!

The charted hits were “Do It Again” and “Reeling In the Years” (both of which I had heard from mostly likely not ’72, but sometime heading back that way), then on the next album, “Show Biz Kids” and “My Old School”, which I never heard or don’t remember, followed by “Pretzel Logic” and “Rikki Don’t Lose That Number” (both of which I heard nearly two decades later), then “Black Friday”, “Bad Sneakers”, “Kid Charlemagne”, “The Fez”, and “Haitian Divorce”; none of which I remember. (Bad Sneakers does sound a bit like something I’ve heard before, but not too long ago; at a time when I wasn’t as interested in the group, but recognized the sound, or maybe I did catch the title, and remembered seeing it on the album, and just figured that I knew that by that time the sound had changed, and then forgot it).

So basically, for me, it went straight from “Reelin'”, to “Peg”; and from “Do It Again” to “Josie” (and again; no idea that these were by the same group). But clearly, after their first two hits, they hit a slump, with one minor hit that was pretty much the old style, but music was changing, and that style was becoming outmoded. So the other hit had the more jazzy chords, and when they experimented with that more on subsequent albums, they began getting more hits.

So by Aja, they perfected the sound that made that album a pop hit, basically, whose single hits you couldn’t not hear. (Though “Deacon Blues” was also on the chart, and I’m not sure I remember it from before getting the album 10 years later. Could have, though, as it didn’t sound totally unfamiliar. It just didn’t register until then. “FM” was also on the chart in the midst of the Aja singles the following year).

Then, from Gaucho, “Hey Nineteen” was basically a “household item” type of “top 40” commercial pop hit. (The other hit from that album was “Time Out of Mind”; but I’m not sure I ever heard that back then).

In the US, the highest scoring hit was “Rikki” (#4; their top hit? Don’t know why I missed it, or at least didn’t remember it), followed by “Do It Again” (#6), and then “Hey Nineteen” (#10). “Peg” and “Reelin'” both reached #11.

80’s (end of initial run) and afterward, and raising lyrical eyebrows

Still, the problem for me, was what these cryptic titles and lyrics really meant. Like I find a song from the album before Aja; “The Fez” is about a condom! (Seems to be about safe sex. Like a precursor to BDP’s rap “Jimmy Hats”).
“Josie” I had heard somewhere was a slang for the female sex organ. So then, any time I would see or think of the popular comic book and cartoon character I grew up with, it would now bring to mind this song, and I would have to wonder if the whole name of her band (which happens to include a feline term that also subs as a common vulgar slang for the female anatomy), was a sort of sexual pun. [Though the song character may actually have been a real girl he knew, as a “Josie” is mentioned in the old previously unreleased song “Minor from China” (aka “Yellow Peril”).]

There were some good messages mixed in there, such as the album title track, “The Royal Scam”, is about Puerto Rican [or whichever country has a red and green flag; PR is a US territory, but it mentions “the city of St. John”, which is likely San Juan, PR] immigration to New York where they had still faced poverty, in addition to hostility from others. (Very relevant in today’s political landscape, where fierce battles have been raging on about immigrants from other, non-territory Latin American countries). “King of the World” is about a nuclear aftermath. “Fire In the Hole” seems to be about a misunderstood person feeling like he has “nowhere left to turn” (which I can often identify with). The title being a war term, it could have been about that as well. Similarly, “Any World (That I’m Welcome To)” is about the wish for a better existence.

So I had only the Aja LP, and eventually got the CD of that one and Fagen’s solo album, The Nightfly, like I did for the whole Stevie collection, and was completing for Earth Wind & Fire (who had obviously pagan themes, but at least most of the songs were pretty kosher; “Serpentine Fire” being the primary exception. Then, they even dropped the pagan imagery from the albums for a time, when they got back together, around the same time I became Christian).

So this album pretty much continues the same style and weird lyrical images. It also included “New Frontier”, which I had heard before, and the lively, Clavinet/Rhodes fused “Greenflower Street”, and the funky-chorused title track.
Fagen’s first solo project was actually a single “True Companion” for a film, the previous year (and thus between the last band album and the first solo album). This song (the first more than half of which is instrumental) has a very “otherworldly” sound that’s like an odd mix of some of the stuff on the previous album (especially the closer, “Third World Man”) and Stevie Wonder’s instrumental “Easy Going Evening” (on the EP extension of Songs In the Key of Life; particularly the Rhodes chords), and even the “water world” score of the original Super Mario Bros!

Afterwards, Fagen would appear to drop out of music for awhile, but at the end of the 80’s do a single song for a film, “Century’s End”, which basically continues the “Nightfly” sound. Then, another solo album in ’93.
Fagen basically skipped right over that purely “digital” mid-80’s sound of ’84-8 that transformed everyone else’s music. The closest we have to what he would have sounded like in that period, is “Century’s End”, at the end of this period, and its B-side “Shanghai Confidential” and which are totally electronic. (The latter song even has that digital percussion with the synth clap, that was widespread in that period up to then, so it even sounds like it’s going to be a rap track).

Afterward, popular music would enter a sort of “retro” style, leading down to the present, where older sounds were brought back (and likely influenced by the popularity of fusion jazz). The DC area’s “Go-go music” genre, Swing Out Sister’s “Twilight World”, Stock Aitken Waterman’s “Roadblock” and Soul II Soul’s “Back To Life” spearheaded this.

So by ’93, the “digital sound” revolution was basically over (and as the digital equipment could now also almost perfectly emulate the old analog sounds, including increasingly the direct “sampling” of older sounds), and Fagen’s Kamakiriad could pick up right where the “pre-digital” The Nightfly had left off. (Since that album is timewise, closest to ’84, we could try to imagine it with the acoustic piano and Rhodes replaced with the digital EP and a “beat box” or synth drum machine, but it still seems to be a stretch. We could also just get a sense of what it would have been like from Grover Washington’s rendition of “Time Out Of Mind”, which uses the digital electric piano in place of the original’s acoustic. On the other hand, Sade and most of the “fusion” performers of the time were jazz-oriented performers who held the pre-digital fort throughout the period, and so we can imagine perhaps Fagen would have done the same).

In actuality, he was not totally inactive in those years, but rather produced other acts, and so this is where we have to look to see his adaptation to the “digital” sound.
In 1983, he wrote the song “Love Will Make it Right” for Diana Ross, and not only that, but original Steely Dan producer Gary Katz (who had also done Fagen’s solo project the previous year) produced that and several other tracks on the album. (I really do not know any of her stuff from that album [only the song title “Pieces of Ice” vaguely rings a bell], as this was a slump period for her, and she came back a year later with Marvin Gaye tribute “Missing You”).
So this song, though technically before the great “digital” revolution, is nevertheless totally synthesized. Most of these other songs also bear some of the SD influence, especially “That’s How You Start Over” (written by SD ally Michael McDonald and having strong echoes of “Peg”, which McDonald was apart of), but reflect the pre-digital sound.

For 1984, he would produce Greg Phillinganes’ song “Lazy Nina”, which I know I’ve heard before, sometime.

Back in the maaaaaaaze…with Lazy Nina. Walking the dog, and watching Soul Train. Reading the paper. And going to movies…

It does have the typical new synth bass, and those “Minneapolis” style synths added, though the primary instrument sounds like a synthesized or processed acoustic piano (perhaps plucking the strings directly?) But with the title, harmonic structure, and “Deacon Blues”-esque chorus, it is clearly the perennial Fagen style.
Also, both he and Katz would receive producer credit on “The Gospel At Colonnus, Original Cast” play, which consists of black gospel music and not an electronic style.

In 1986, Fagen would do the Yellowjackets’ title track “Shades”, which was an instrumental jazz composition (and which does bear the digital sound, which jazz tunes usually did not). You can hear his style of choral progressions.
The same year, Katz would produce an entire album for this female I never heard of, Rosie Vela, which right from the start bears that mid-to-later ’80s version of the synth “rock” sound. Fagen played synths on several tracks, including the title tack “Zazu”, in which Walter Becker also played guitar. (So it was like a mini-SD reunion, and the collaborations would actually pick up steam in the coming years). So the Steely Dan sound is there, in places (like “Magic Smile” and “Boxs”, in terms of chordal changes) but it is very “subdued” under that 80’s rock sound. (Katz also produced one side of Joe Crocker’s Civilized Man that year, which also included former SD and Toto member Jeff Porcaro).

This is perhaps what they would have sounded like if they stuck with the sound of the first two albums and modernized from there. In the 90’s, Becker and Fagen began moving closer back together throughout the previous decade, producing each other’s solo albums and then starting to do concerts in 1993-6, with some new songs such as “Wet Side Story”, which is another one that sounds like typical 80’s rock, and what they would have sounded like if they had not become so jazzy; along with “Cash Only Island”, which is sort of inbetween, with the jazzy chordal progression at the end of the chorus.
The “cool jazz” format is what obviously worked best for them, and what Fagen would quickly return to.

So on Fagen’s second solo project; I did not pay attention to this new album, and may not have been aware of it, or just wasn’t interested in his solo work enough at the time. However, two years later, a friend (a fellow fan of Stevie and others like Fagen) makes me a Christmas tape, that included a song from this album, “Snowbound” (and also several songs by Herb Alpert, and Smokey’s “I Can Tell that Christmas Is Near”, which was written by Stevie and Syreeta).
This to me is the perennial “Friday evening after work in a club during Christmas season” sound, and features those same kinds of seeming random scene lyrics. It’s been part of my Christmas playlist (and one of my favorite “modern” holiday season songs) for 20 years now! (It was actually co-written by Becker, in addition to produced by him). Also noteworthy is the closer, “Teahouse on the Tracks”.
There were several other singles left off of the album, such as the piano shuffle “Confide in Me” (which is also more subdued in the chord change sound), while on the other hand, sounding as far out as the Gaucho session stuff is “Big Noise, New York”, produced for a Spike Lee movie that was never made. Another track produced around the time are “Blue Lou”, which is pure classic (instrumental) jazz. Another one, that may have been produced later is a remake of Henry Mancini’s “Hank’s Pad” (with female lyrics added).

The group got back together in 2000, and the album pretty much picked up from before. (I think I remember being in a store and hearing at least parts of the album, beginning with very funky “Gaslighting Abbie”, with it’s funny chorus chords with the vocals pitched up to the point of sounding like Take 6, and it was clear, “they’re back!”. It uses the vocal “stretching” technique first tried in the bridge to “Your Gold Teeth”, and then popularized in the chorus of “Aja”, and then stepped up in pitch in the middle of the verses of “Glamour Profession”, and just when you think they had outdone themselves there, they take it even further in this song!) I still did not push to get it, as I hadn’t fully explored their history yet (and it wasn’t until very recently, with Rhapsody, that I finally went through all their stuff).

One song that evokes the old TONTO-like early-to-mid 70’s sound in places on the first three albums is “Almost Gothic”! “What A Shame About Me” is like a latter day nod to “Do It Again” in the verses, while the chorus is like “Greenflower Street” to the third power! (The subject matter is basically like a repeat of “Deacon Blues”).
“Negative Girl” has a smooth Rhodes sound with a catchy rhythm which changes step from verse to chorus. 8 min. closer “West of Hollywood” has an interesting descending and shifting triplet chord refrain which it fades on. (Not sure if that’s a Celtic style). It otherwise sounds almost like the old sound with the rock guitar played throughout. So it actually brings to mind “Reelin’ In The Years”!

In 2003, I’m skimming through the main Sam Ash on 48th St. (would often check up on the latest synthesizers or digital pianos there), and I hear their newest album, but one of the tracks is something called “Godwhacker”, which had words that appeared to be aimed one-to-one at God Himself, and you’ll have to see them here:, as a few lines are so bad I cannot even bring myself to quote the most pertinently shocking words. (And I’m not usually squeamish about others’ blasphemies and such; they are the ones who will have to answer to God for it).
My friend I mentioned above, also a Christian, told me that it was really a metaphor aimed at corrupt religious leaders like Saddam Hussein who use God for evil purposes; with 9-11 still fresh in everyone’s mind. That made me feel a little bit better, though I still believed using terms aimed at “the almighty” or “Daddy” was still too over the top for comfort, even if referring to humans. You’re basically still essentially blaming Him for their actions they are only doing in His name, despite whether He actually sanctioned them or not.

(The album otherwise continues with the same sound, with “Things I Miss The Most” as the “Deacon Blues” representative, “Pixeleen” with its prominent µ-II’s ringing out the syllables of the title in the chorus, “Slang of Ages” being Becker’s sole lead vocal for the band, and a part of “Blues Beach” using the old “Peanuts” style piano sound, which basically sounds like a parting nod to the old Steely Dan. Titled “Everything Must Go” and with another song, the opener, “The Last Mall”, it sounds like a theme indicating that’s completely the end for the band, though they’ve just finished a tour 12 years later, this past year [Edit: and another one, the following year, 2016]).

In passing, I should mention I would shortly afterward get rid of the CD’s of Aja, Nightfly, Abbey Road, one of those new Beatles singles released in the 90’s, my entire Earth, Wind & Fire collection, and an 80’s new wave compilation, in a musical purge sparked on by being exposed to (and starting to debate where I thought it went overboard) old-line fundamentalists’ full “philosophy” on music; and even CCM singer Carman aknowledging on the 700 Club that there’s “a spirit behind music”, and then feeling convicted, and then my wife objecting to the huge ankh that appeared on EWF’s latest CD at the time, as they now moved back to pagan imagery. Plus being basically spooked out by an obscure old song I was trying to record. (Below. And then, right after I did this, I found that they had just come out with another new album, that really maxed it with the religious imagery!)
My getting rid of the Fagen works; after I found that [in addition to the titles’ mysterious “veiled references”], the band itself’s name was said to be such a reference; taken from the name of a “dildo” (sex toy used as a penis. Just now looking this up further, I see it was not a real brand or type that ever existed, but rather a fictional one, used in an old William Burroughs novel. There were actually three of them; each one succeeding the last when it was destroyed).* And also, being still uncomfortable about “Godwhacker”, despite the mitigating intepretation of it.

*In another of the pre-band demos, “Soul Ram” (which also sounds strikingly like the later style in places), the name appears to be used as such, and possibly still before it was even adopted as the band’s name. Perhaps this song was the final inspiration for them taking the name. With several other weird names like that considered (, I wondered if the final name was still in part settled on by the steel pedal guitar that figured strongly in the early studio recordings. I did see Becker affirm that it was:

Wrestling with God? 

However, in just looking the lyrics up again, and finding the above link, I see the old “Saddam” interpretation was a common myth, and someone cited Fagen in a book he wrote, Eminent Hipsters as saying he in fact did write the song about actually going to Heaven (with Satan, “slinky red foot”) and “taking God out”, after his mother died horribly of Alzheimer’s! “‘If the Deity actually existed, what sane person wouldn’t consider this to be justifiable homocide?’ So yeah. The lyrics are kind of straight forward. However it does give a whole new philosophical dimension to the song. The concept of if a God did exist, he surely deserves punished for his blatant lack of care etc.” Another commenter suggests it’s some sort of “Manichaean fantasy”, “doing riffs on Gnosticism”, about taking out “a god (lower case)”. Still, there is a clear allusion to Genesis and the pre-Fall unity man had with the Creator as recorded there. (Like “Caves of Altamira” is also actually about the innocence of the prehistoric world “before the Fall”).

I liked the two comments:

this is a sad, sad song. i love steely dan music, in spite of their frequently perverted subject matter. but as great a groove as this is, the playing, the solos etc, to see a human being who was given life and breath by God shaking his fist at heaven and wanting to kill the Father who loves him is just a perfect picture of man’s pathetic attitude toward God since creation. Exactly the same as when Jesus came to earth to rescue man — and the very ones he came to save mocked him, spit on him, and crucified him. This is how we treat God. Donald’s mom had Alzheimers? ok, my mom died of Parkinson’s, welcome to reality in a sin-stained world. Now grow up, don’t get angry at God, get angry at slinky red foot for ruining God’s perfect sinless creation and your fellow man for gladly jumping on the bandwagon. I was going to introduce this song to my steely dan tribute band until i examined the lyrics closer. This is donald and walter at their cleverest, profoundest worst. I fear for their souls.

If the backstory on this song is accurate then it helps me understand how in the absence of empathy and grief we resort to violence; in this case it’s violence against G-d. I can’t imagine the deep sense of sadness and anger that Fagen must feel, and that his need for connection has been lost now from his mothers passing. I wonder if he had a profound need to understand why G-d allowed his mother to suffer and eventually die. And I wonder if he was disgusted with himself for not being able to deliver her from the disease. But in “Godwhacker,” Killing off G-d is actually another compounding of tragedy upon tragedy. One of the reasons being that killing G-d doesn’t liberate you from the need to grieve: so it is a powerless and tragic act.
The way back to wholeness is to repent, trust Jesus, and discover the power of good grieving which transforms your spiritual life comprehensively.

(Philip Yancey IIRC somewhere; likely Disappointment With God, cites some old writing by someone, about man being like a boy who kills his parents and then cries that he wants his mommy and daddy! The song “Don’t Take Me Alive” even seems to echo this sentiment, as the guy, cornered by the authorities, basically has a death wish because “I crossed my old man back in Oregon”, which is assumed to mean he killed him. Then, there’s two unreleased songs from the Gaucho session, “Talkin’ ‘Bout My Home”, and “Kind Spirit” which seem to look to Heaven).

Although a problem, as I’ve been discussing a lot in my writings, is that these sentiments exacerbate the problem by raising the very sorts of expectations [which are basically the sources of nearly all pain, when they are unmet] that lead people to rebel like that in the first place. “Trusting Jesus” leading to some sort of “transformation” that compensates for the loss. But to be honest, it doesn’t really work like that.
Ultimately, the goal is supposed to be to put the suffering of life in perspective, realizing that it will be more than made up for in Heaven. But in the original scriptural context, “trusting God” is to eliminate the problem of guilt from the condemnation of the Law (which did cause a lot of anxiety in Biblical times). It is opposed to trusting in our own works. Also, to deal with persecution by the Temple system (at the hands of the Romans whom they turned Christians over to).

Faith in Christ was not offered as a promise to make us feel better in general life circumstances (which include physical pain and death). But a whole massive Christian teaching industry often puts it out as such, and basically sells it to the masses (which people on the outside also see and judge our validity by).
So when it doesn’t make some people feel better (and which time the people who teach this will then come right out and clarify it’s “not about feelings”, or “feeling good”), then this will likely lead to disillusionment, and possibly even rebellion like this. (And then, we see here the way people often coldly dismiss people’s suffering; like “grow up, it’s just sin”. Many Christians don’t think this way when they are feeling mistreated by “the [sinful] world”).

I still grapple with why the world is the way it is, under a “personal” God. Not so much directly about “why pain” any more (it seems to be a apart of nature, and the preterist-based views move away from a notion of “the Fall” being physical, and affecting the physical universe; it was man’s “knowledge” which clearly, according to the text, became corrupted).
So with me, its more about why this world often seems to encourage people to follow “nature” (the survival instinct, where the powerful prosper at others’ expense; rather than “integrity”, which is about justice, care and the patience to not depend solely on nature).
I tend to look more at why man causes man pain, where Alzheimer’s is not man’s fault, and I imagine man is doing as much as he can to find cures. (There’s rumors that the medical industry and “Big Pharma” may hold back cures to diseases, for the sake of profit, of course, but then that gets right back to my query, of man and abuse of power).

Basically, it all boils down to why difficulty is “tangible” (or physical, concrete, material; basically the “Sensory” perspective), while the “hope” that is supposed to compensate it, can only be intangible (mental, abstract, immaterial; or the iNtuitive perspective. And I’m an N, so you would think this would be right up my alley, but it only led me to the philosophical questions, and purported answers, but then I eventually demanded tangible evidence to support it. ⦅Likely, at least partly because the unpreferred S perspective is my weak spot⦆. It’s ultimately the “coniunctio” we all desire, where all split polarities are harmonized, including the opposites of the polarities our egos choose to focus on).

The intangible world is filled with various “images” and “voices” saying many different things, and one particular image we may choose in “faith” is easily drowned out by the sensory world (like the survival instincts and the sex drive, which may pull us against moral convictions), which we can try to tune out, but eventually, will make itself known in a very “rude awakening”. Yet, the only solution we’re offered lies in this intangible world in our heads (or “hearts”) and we’re supposed to choose that over “what is seen”.
The understandable result of such a subjective nature of “faith”: thousands of different religious groups; including sects within religions; especially Christianity, (and even secular philosophies), claiming to have some inner-found “truth” (or even claiming it is really externally “objective” truth), yet they’re all different and conflicting. God would not be telling all these different people different things as “truth”; but then which one is right, and “what causes them to differ” from all the others? [i.e., if one says they are the ones with “the truth”, then they are “different” from all the other groups, but even among “Bible-believing” groups, where they are agreed on scripture as the standard of truth, everyone interprets it differently, claiming God led them to the true meaning, but ignoring that they are still a human claiming to be right, but no less prone to error; just like all the others].

Of course, to standard theology, even with all of this, people are still “held accountable”, to “know better”, and that’s why they will be “judged” so harshly. They use Romans 1, which seems to pitch a “general revelation” basis of “accountability”, yet general revelation seems to point to inhuman power mongering, a lot of times. (Then, they’ll try to run behind “the Fall” to say God’s creation is corrupted; to be fixed in the future. But if that’s the case, then the “general revelation” argument falls as well. In actuality, that passage is talking about specific people back then given special revelation, which they still “held in unrighteousness”).

But still, why imagine yourself going to take out the Creator of the whole universe, who created that whole big ball of glowing steel wool scientists have mapped out, in which our whole galaxy supercluster (over 100 million light years across) is an infinitessimal speck?
It obviously stems from a belief that He is not real. (It’s one thing for someone to maybe have some thoughts like that, in the most extreme bout of anger or something; but to publish it in a song?) You may argue that the religious people don’t really know for sure that He exists (like my father always said “you don’t know; the Pope don’t know…” etc,) but then are you that sure he doesn’t exist? At least respect people (including fans, as we see) who do believe in Him!

To attack God like that, obviously stems from some sort of expectation of Him, not met. If one was really sure He was non-existent, then why would someone bother getting angry at Him for pain and suffering in the first place? (I don’t think anyone actually ever gets angry at the “Flying Spaghetti Monster” skeptics created to mock theism!
Of course, in the Christian world-view, since Jesus was God in the flesh, and our sins caused Him to have to be killed on the Cross, we all in a sense have already “whacked” God. And He rose again, and forgave us. But of course, Fagen likely won’t go for that. As won’t the Church for making it unconditional to everyone. Both agree on a perpetual enmity between man and God; only one chooses to then dismiss God, while the other has exploited this to build itself up as an institution through making an individual’s release from this enmity conditional on basically joining the institution; i.e. “conversion”).

Listening to his stuff, with chord change after chord change, I keep saying this man is so talented! Pretty much up there with Stevie, even though he hasn’t quite gotten the spotlight that Stevie has. (I’ve even seen videos of him performing; singing/sitting/playing on the keyboard with shades on, and he looks just like a “white Stevie”!) So it’s like “why?”! It’s a shame that this is what he would say about God (which would definitely make it almost impossible to justify listening to him in the event I ever directly tangle with fundamentalist Christians questioning “our musical choices” again. This is especially worrisome, with inferior extraverted Feeling.
BTW, As fans of the band are often called “Danites”, it brings to mind the biblical Israelite tribe of the same name. This suggests an obvious pun, regarding the Danites being omitted from the final gathering of the “12 tribes of Israel” in Revelation. It’s said the tribe was omitted because of its greater wickedness and was replaced by splitting Menasseh off from the house of Joseph into a new tribe).

The “anima” dynamic; the sights and sounds of “life”

The whole point of all this, is how the sounds have become tied in with a sense of “life”, for me. It’s obviously some sort of “anima” dynamic, for me to sit down and pour out such a long memoir of this group I haven’t even talked about before (and pushing back other projects I was planning for this vacation). It was from when I was becoming familiar with their stuff, in my early 20’s, and had just become Christian, and longing for a partner (which now would be much harder to find, as it had to be only a Christian as mature in the faith as you were, and you couldn’t sleep with them or even do risky behaviors like heavy petting or too much time alone, until marriage).

During this time, being grown enough to explore the city on my own, I also began seeing a lot of lower Manhattan, a place I didn’t go to much, since everything I would be taken to as a child was usually further uptown. I was in the Village a lot, looking in old record stores (particlarly for non-midlined Motown albums. Midlining was where they changed all of the original sublabels like “Tamla” or “Gordy” to Motown, [5xxx series], and eliminated interior flaps with the artwork or lyrics and credits. Was at the time trying to get original versions of some of Stevie’s later contract 1 albums. Contract 2 and afterward were never midlined).
For some reason, “Peg” and especially “Josie” came to be associated with Chinatown and Little Italy. Probably from hearing them on the radio around the time I was starting to go to San Genarro (which originally extended around past the Mulberry Bend, and perhaps eating at a Chinese restaurant, and I also discovered Chinatown Fair, the only old arcade in Manhattan, to still be open today!)

Again, rather than a semitropical atmosphered lowrise “California” sound (like “surf and sun” type of stuff), these songs seem to fit in with the gritty tenement blocks of lower Manhattan. Especially the irregularly laid out West, with triangular blocks where 6th or 7th Avenues extend and cut through the below Houston (the start of the main numbered Street section) grid, with little 19th century smaller buildings with cafes, or whatever. (They also remind me of sections of uptown, on the West side).
The rich sounds are to audio what color is visually, and figuratively, and as at least my wife and I (having honeymooned in LA, and me exploring before that, in the Air Force) agree, New York is the more “colorful” place, at least as far as architecture and atmosphere. (A sound I associate more with that California “fun in the sun” atmosphere would be Fagen’s “Tomorrow’s Girls”, immediately following “Snowbound” on Kamakiriad).

Fagen and his band were originally from New York, and their songs basically were reflecting their college years adventures with wine, women and song, or whatever. (Probably drugs, too. Some of the women they were singing about, like the Babylon Sisters, were prostitutes or other shady behaviors. Or some suggest some girls they had picked up in Babylon, NY[LI] and took to the west, and driving up and down that coast. In that instance, he was not advocating whatever sex was occurring, but having apparently indulged so much already, was realizing it was not good. So that was a “learning from life” experience).
So many of them really are “New York” experience songs, despite where they were recorded! (“Babylon Sisters” does specifically mention California areas, however. But then this includes in part, San Francisco, which is culturally and visually closer to the atmosphere of NY than LA anyway). Greene St. is mentioned in “Black Cow”, and the later “What A Shame About Me” mentions Jane St.; both in the West Village, along with “Lower Broadway”.

Even vocal sounds like in the opener of the LP I bought: “…it’s over now, take your big Black Cow, and GET OUTTA HERE!” and “I take ya PICTCHA! I keep it with yo LETTA” sound so New York (particularly Brooklyn, where they were from. Reminds me of the New York baseball culture, as well; they probably played the latter at games a lot back then).

Even though as a young Christian, and a black American (secular or religious), homosexuality was the worse thing a person could be “into”, and of course, that’s what you thought about when you thought about the Village. I did not mingle with people there (so never encountered anything in that lifestyle), just browsed through, most often to check out the old record stores, maybe got something to eat (usually at Subway, which was new in NY at the time, and still pretty rare), and then headed home.
But I got this sense of “life”, in the sights and sounds there. It’s basically what I would now recognize as the “anima”; life-giving instinctual energy. My father was basically one of those 60’s bohemians (rebelling against the old societal order with all its racism, neurosis and hypocrisy) who had eventually put on a suit and joined the regular work force and the “nuclear family” life, and yet was well familiar with the Village scene, particularly for the jazz, which he was into.

And at my entry to adulthood, he was constantly pressuring me to “grow up” and “experience life”, and of course feared my new adoption of Christianity (which he was bitterly harassing me over at times) would hinder that. (He gave me his copies of The World Bible and the novel The Razor’s Edge to try to “broaden my perspective”. I did gain some comparative religion from the former, yet still convincing me that Christianity was the only one that really addressed man’s problems in any coherent way, and the latter I just could not get far into; not being into novels, and it seemed very dense. Was never even able to get into Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, which I had been given years earlier, and that’s supposed to be a classic kind of INTP “nerd” book!)

Still, by 21, I just imagined myself finally fitting in this thing called “life” I felt so cast out of, and maybe finding the perfect woman out there, coming from her own difficult journey (which I take it Razor’s Edge was about), amongst all the people. (Ironically, the one I did eventually find, was probably never far away, as she and her best friend used to hang out in the Village a lot, and she too always liked something about the liberal atmosphere. We spent dating and early marriage, going to places like UNO’s and occasionally other restaurants like BBQ).

But even while believing this was the pit of “Sodom” (I joked to my wife, when passing through St Marks Pl. once; “if those walls [inside the buildings] could talk…”; —though not taking as quite a strict personally judgmental attitude against them like other Christians), there was still this sense of “life” and “freedom” in the [slightly] androgynous or artistic looking females walking around, and the scruffy male hipsters (or whatever they were called then), all often carrying around musical instruments, or [graphic] art stuff.

I’m not in the Village proper as much anymore (though I run the the train underground through it every day, and just had to visit a dermatologist there), but since it’s September, San Genarro is going on this week. Probably why that has had such an allure is just the bustle of people, on what is an “only in New York” mix of a largely residential street lined by tall (relatively speaking) old tenements (and I like the architecture of the “new law” ones), with businsses on the ground floor.
It’s a cross section of “life”.

Also significant; this stretch leading to what became the big “anima-infused” project of last year, the Five Points (—which the block between Mulberry and Mott south of Mosco[Park], is technically apart of as it was the same numbered block that made up the original southeast corner of the intersection, even after being bisected by Mulberry, and later, Worth). This area had already been significant in that way, and so the Five Points interest just reinforced it.
My first visit to San Genarro, when it extended all the way down there, my father parked on his work parking lot spot (now occupied by the Moynihan courthouse), which was just yards from the 24 Baxter site I would soon be intrigued by, but not until much later know where it was. So I’m generally in the area when I visit the festival, with Chinatown Fair being the end of my annual circuit.

So this got me thinking about the group. It’s like in one band, a little bit of all the elements of all the other music I like. I’m just coming to realize how much I would be thinking of one song or line or another over the years. It was something I really took for granted.

The parts of music, and religious criticism

All of this should shed light on why I was so adamant against the old-line fundamentalist “traditional music only” music “philosophy” I wrote about in the old CCM essay (, while other “new-evangelicals” had largely ignored the criticism. As I said there, “Rejecting everything for only serene orchestras and stately hymns is like blasting away the entire earth and every city, leaving only Christian countrysides”. That was what they were essentially arguing, in not only condemning secular music, but even Christians’ adaptation of contemporary styles (embodied in “CCM”, and at least one critic even goes after “charismatics with their jazzy harmonies”).

Obviously, what I’m discussing here is primarily “harmony“. The fundamentalist music class I took discussed the three main divisions of music: melody (basically the “tune” that helps us identify the song), harmony (the chordal structure), and rhythm (the beat). The “words” were separate from these; hence, “changing the words of the same music” is seen as not making it any better, to them.
Their issue against rock and related styles is that “rhythm” is prominent (especially with the drum “backbeat” almost universal in pop music, where the heavier drum stroke is on the “down beat” [even numbers], which they then claim is what makes it “sensual” and even “demonic”. But then what is really “heavier”? It’s the [louder] snare drum that is on the down beat, while a [deeper but less prominent] bass drum is on the “proper” beats, but the bass is really the “heavier” one, so that could actually be considered the true “accent”, and right there, the entire argument against the backbeat accent would fall flat! Further evidence, as mentioned, when cut time is used, the drum beats are removed from the downbeat altogether, though it does sort of create a “new” downbeat on 3, though again, the deeper bass drum is on 1, still).

Jazz is criticized for emphasizing “harmony” too much, which they claimed “distracts with its sensuality”. (This is why one leader calls even the fairly conservative charismatics’ music “jazzy”. It has more emotion, embodied in the harmony, though most of it is still far from what I would call “jazzy”). It is what can shape mood (hence, what I’m discussing here), including sadness, which they criticized old jazz for. (And what was most of that, but blacks expressing their pain over the rough life the “exceptional” white Christian society these teachers uphold, created for them! Blacks are really supposed to have been happy under that, whistling while they work or sit around enjoying watermelon, and it was the “godless”, giving them “free stuff” they didn’t deserve, or freedom they weren’t fit to receive, who created all their “problems” afterward; —and also all the nation’s problems as well!)

While all music has rhythm and harmony, these are to be put in a specific order, with melody as superior, then harmony, and then rhythm. This is done by having the words largely match the melody, which then has to be played in a more plain fashion, to be easily singable by everyone in the congregation.
This is what you hear in the simple church songs they use (in addition to the songs taught young children in nursery or grammar school), where the primary sound is the singing of the words, and the instrument being played is a background, pretty much following the melody, and providing some harmony and tempo (rhythm), for the singers to follow.

While it’s true that harmony and rhythm can distract from worship (the main purpose of singing in church), their whole jihad against contemporary music goes way beyond that; as much of CCM is marketed for enjoyment, and they don’t only condemn it in church. Their whole philosophy is that the harmony and especially rhythm are leading to “sin”, and even destroying the “culture” (in addition to bringing God’s judgment on the nation, on top of all the other sins! At least one writer I ran across actually blamed 9-11 on CCM in church!)

What I think is happening, is they’ve recognized the affect of music on the emotions (as I’m discussing here), and assume this is always, and in itself bad. Their typical argument against those who do answer them is that they are “making music neutral“; which has been elevated to a cardinal error.
A University of Seattle study is cited by CCM critics acknowledging that rock is based on “mathematical formulae” and “calculated frequencies” that affect the body as well as the mind. This is what it has made it as well as jazz and other forms so catchy. This is obviously what Fagen (and others like Stevie, etc.) has mastered.*
The assumption then is that this is necessarily and deliberately being used for “mind-bending” or “indoctrination”. (i.e. again, the pleasing rhythms and harmonies are being used to lead the youth into sexual sin and “rebellion” against God).

*(Where my introverted Thinking (Ti) with extraverted iNtuition leads to a mastery of analyzing and synthesizing concepts, introverted Thinking with extraverted Sensing (Se); which these musicians likely prefer, leads to a mastery of more sensory things, like sounds and visuals. So both will deal in technical or “mathematical” elements. I’ll deal in ‘abstract’ symmetries such as personality matrices, while the music has audible symmetries, such as the arrangements of different tones like the chordal changes, and I’m greatly drawn to these symmetries because of the Ti, but because of Se being “shadow” (less conscious) for me, it takes me a while to be able to put my finger on them and decipher what makes them stand out, and it seems to be virtually impossible for me to come up with any music of my own. Meanwhile, as for our tertiary functions, which are less developed (to a sense of being almost childlike) and reverse of our S/N preferences, introverted Sensing for me is nostalgic about individually recalled facts and sensations, such as this music from the past, while the tertiary introverted iNtuition of artists like this playfully encrypts the recollections into the deep meanings of songs and album concepts, rather than just taking the events for what they were, like I do.
Ni is also useful for coming up with new artistic ideas to begin with. For me, I’ll try to make something by what I remember (Si), and what can be done with it (Ne). I end up with something that’s just a rehash of other things, and can’t figure out how to find a totally original new idea I haven’t heard of before. This is where the unconscious impressions of Ni would come in, and an idea will just come to you, and it will easily translate to a visual or audial production (Se). For SD, the Si “critical parent” or Senex comes through the negative “reminiscing on the past” themes of many songs, such as Deacon Blues, Caves of Altamira and What A Shame About Me).

The overall insinuation is that the pleasure itself is bad (always connected to those sins, or just the plain “hedonism” of “self-gratification” as they call it). But of course, most (at least, not anymore) would never own such an idea to that extreme. They just see pleasure for its own sake (even so much as tapping feet to the rhythm, as some will mention), as being too potentially “sensuous”, and then they do see many in the “world” using music for sexuality, which builds the case.

On the other end of the emotional spectrum, it can convey and/or produce sadness and anger, and those negative emotions they also see as “sensual” or “of the flesh“. (And then they key it into the scant scriptural references they can find, like the “music that sounds like war” the Israelites were using with the golden calf). Man’s emotion is to be “joy” in “Christ”. He’s a sinner who has no recourse but to give God back what He is due (since God is really the only legitimately “offended” party in life), and Christ paid to provide the way for man to be saved.

So anger is only for the righteous preacher thundering at those who are not in Christ (and are destroying “godly Christian culture”), or those within the Church, “compromising” with “the world”. Sadness is to only be over one’s own “sin”. Once all of that is cleaned up, then what really is left for us, but “joy”?
So any music that produces or reflects any emotion besides that is seen as “sensual”, and “feeding the flesh”. Hence, one leader even says the only acceptable rhythm is “marching”, which many of the 4/4 timed hymns do lead to, and even some 6/8. (You can even look at the common “battle”-themed songs “Onward Christian Soldier” and “Mine Eyes Have Seen the Glory”. Not sure what that teacher said about the many 3/4 “waltz”-timed hymns, but I imagine the “marching” criteria is probably only for 4/4. But then doesn’t “marching” also “sound like war“?).

It’s obvious that this is all about CONTROL. And as such, it’s not any biblical concern, despite how much wisdom there may be in some amount of musical “discernment”.*

They’ll deny they are only pushing one culture over others, but as in many issues, they are known “more for what they are against, than what they are for”. Their philosophy as to what should be played in church (and even what’s “good” even for entertainment) seems to default to what you hear them play, which is the old hymns, and maybe something symphonic (including secular classical, among some. The “culture” that produced that is seen as “Christian”, and so falls under the category of “sacred” culture even if every artist in it was not a born again Christian).

The original full basis of their teaching is that Africa is cursed, and anything the people there produce is spiritually bad, and “worldly, sensuous, demonic”. (And math, as we see is involved in music, was a great gift of early African culture, as can be seen in the pyramids and other creations. But this is here yet something else demonized).
True religious “cuckservatives” as most of them are [i.e. indirect in their ideology, instead of openly naming the perceived racialized threats, as more radical supremacists labeling them as such desire], they try to hide the full implications of this with extensive code language [they’re worse than Steely Dan in that regard!], yet hold onto the censure of contemporary Christians who are seen as “compromising” just for using some of the same sounds.

(A couple of teachers I’ve seen, “Brother” Mike O’Neal, and Mike Paulson, retain and boldly affirm the full racial underpinning of the teaching, framing it around the sons of Noah. Which as it was, was totally misread in assuming it taught that a whole “race” of people, down to the present, were “cursed”, any more than any other people apart from God.
Yet people calling this out to those who hide the true meaning will be accused of “playing the race card”. The very first time I ever heard that all too common catch phrase in fact, was when calling this teaching out on a Christian board).

Music and the unconscious; questions over “discernment”

But music is very important, providing a “background” to life, and capturing many moods and sentiments. The critics appeal to this, when they talk about “influence of music” to prove that their traditional sounds are good, while anything black-influenced is bad. (Their only tack is a bunch of “scientific studies” one leader completely misconstrued [and he being recently exposed as having likely more definite “sensuality” problems himself!], or just looking at the often troubled and sometimes fatal lifestyles of rock stars, to prove “guilt by association”, and “that’s what the music leads to”).

Often helping their arguments, are that many “good” (aesthetically pleasing) sounds were produced when the artists were high or something (you hear this with the likes of Sly Stone, and Jimi Hendrix, who eventually died from his lifestyle). So I’m sure this may have had an influence on Fagen and his associates (Dr. Wu was even reportedly a real-life Chinese Medicine practitioner [Jing Nuan Wu (1933-2002)] who helped treat him).

What I think this might be, from knowing something about the “unconscious” now, is that the altered states of consciousness probably do give you access to ego-states that might otherwise be drowned out by all the other “chatter” in our heads. So that would be why drugs might seem to produce greater creativity. (Stevie never needed drugs, though!) But then that means it doesn’t prove that the sounds produced in those states are necessarily bad themselves.

I’m addressing this, because many Christians (from fundamentalists to charismatics) believe this opens you up to “demons”.
In passing, I’ve heard that Jung claimed demons were really only “autonomous complexes”, which are ego states that take executive control, as happens in addictions and such. Seeing how the notion of demons as what amounts to these invisible “people” who walk around causing various trouble for no reason, sometimes gets tossed around too much or overdone; some saying they even “cling onto” physical items (Chick & company used this as an argument against “rock music” records, IIRC); I considered the “autonomous complex” idea, but demons as an individual’s ego-states doesn’t square with Christ casting them out of one person, and into a herd of pigs, who then run to their demise from it!

(In the Fulfilled view, Satan is primarily an “accuser”, who tries to torment believers with the Law, being we all hopelessly fall short. This is pretty much opposite of what much of doctrinally conservative Christianity assumes; thinking Satan aims to lead people into sinful pleasures, where God is still commanding us the Law, and thus it’s essentially a tug of war between God and Satan in trying to get as many souls as they can, into either Heaven or Hell, respectively; their bliss or suffering in the afterlife, determined by their delaying of pleasure and suffering the “hard walk” of following the Law, or not, here and now. Hence, leaders like this are “doing the work of the Kingdom” in condemning everyone’s “fun”, including even more moderate Christians; ⦅and trying to “take back” or maintain as much of this “Kingdom” in American culture as possible⦆.

But when the Law system was completely ended in AD70, he finally lost any real power, though it’s many religions that actually continue his mission, through effort-based distortions of the Gospel message, and resultant accusations of the Law in various ways, including what I’m discussing about music. ⦅i.e. any “pagan origin” and “sensuality” would ultimately violate the commandments against idolatry and adultery⦆.
All of this leads to both distress among believers seeking to be “right” with God, and even discord amongst different groups, such as “old line fundamentalists” vs “new evangelicals”, as each side, or perhaps a more zealous detracting side, claims they are following “all of God’s Word” and the other is not. Clearly, “by their fruit do we know them”, and we can see as Paul shows, the Law can only bring “death”.
So perhaps now in this post-Law age, it’s possible that much of what people call “demons” might be deeply repressed ego-states, which are lesser senses of “I” in the psyche, that can come up and even take control of us. We don’t see any being cast into animals now, though many different religious groups will claim many sensational things are occuring in their services).

Chick had published one book on the “planned destruction of our children” (echoing the typical conspiratorial mindset of those who believe they created an “exceptional” Christian society that everyone else is ruining with “sin”). One chapter was “Don’t Mess With My Music”, which is what teens often said to their parents trying to throw out their records. The verdict was that it was “demons” attached to the music, capturing these kids’ minds, and making them rebel and say this. (Just like one Chick tract showing a baby in a “backslidden” household yelling because a demon pinches him!)

All of this is like trying to grab onto smoke. Tossing around something you read about in scripture, but extending it way beyond what is actually printed there, in trying to stretch it to apply to our experience.
So in actual practice, you can’t prove it or disprove the alleged invisible “cause”, but the teachers think they have the upper hand because they take the “rebellion” (supposed effect) itself as the proof; basically putting the cart before the horse. (“Confirmation bias”. Then they lament society and even the contemporary Church continuing to turn from their “values”; as they no longer take them seriously, from them using such twisted rhetoric and lines of reasoning).

But music obviously taps into various ego states, which include ones that like whatever it is that the music represents to them and want to identify with. So of course they will react that way. The fundamentalists and other cultural conservatives are constantly, and very loudly telling others to stop messing with or “taking away” things of theirs (or that they think are theirs; including “society” itself, as well as “their music”, the old hymns). And as this includes control over others through fear in the name of God, this is actually more in line with what Satan’s ploy is!

But as I said in the psychology essay (when addressing Jung and his teachings on the unconscious), I still believe we still should not mess around with the unconscious. (My discussions of it [aka the “shadow”], in connection with Jung’s typology, and the complexes that connect with the cognitive functions of typology, involves being aware of it, because it does come up and affect us, and can even be seen by others and not ourselves at times, as the “Johari Window” points out. But not to deliberately tap into it (which occultists do, often using drugs, and shamans even do something called “disintegrating the ego” which gets you in touch with a deeply suppressed complex called, interestingly enough, the “Demonic Personality”, which they then remain partly in touch with. —And these are often the sort of religious guides telling southern Africans that raping virgins, including newborn baby girls will cure AIDS).

If these deeply “shadow” ego states take control, then it doesn’t matter whether it’s just a “complex” within the individual psyche, or an actual living “fallen angel” from outside, when it creates behaviors like that, or other problems you then cannot control.

*As for Carman’s statement about the “spirit behind the music”, I would say there is still something to that, but it’s very difficult to determine it in practice. I would say people with sexual or unbiblical spiritualistic themes are definitely suspect, and then groups like Steely Dan and Earth Wind & Fire are reasonably questionable; but then as the “spirit behind the music” is not really a biblically developed concept, it can get into speculation of some “bad effect”, which may or may not occur, with any given listener, and that’s what we see when the [more fundamentalistic] rock music condemners point at the deaths of rock stars (including Christian ones like Rich Mullins, who did not die from the same sort of “lifestyle” cause many secular stars died from. The critics will also go back and forth as to whether “negative effects” are the basis for “discernment in music”, or whether it’s the “style” by “association” issue, that determines its “offensiveness to God”).

Like some have this fully developed concept called “doorways”, based largely from taking God’s condemnation of pagan worship, and pairing it with demon possession or “attacks” against Christians recorded in places. (And related further developed concepts like “eye gates”, “ear gates”, etc. among those with charismatic leanings, built up from passages like Luke 11:34 and Prov.4:23. So various things you do might supposedly lead to possession or Satan “winning” over us somehow. Often it might be little more than “becoming less usable by God in His work [of building the Kingdom]”, or behaving “less like Christ” or just Him frowning upon us).

But Paul’s treatments of meats offered to idols (which you would think would be something demons would definitely be “clinging to”, if they did any such thing, and thus a “doorway”, as it’s taken right to inside of us) should have shown that the real problem is in man’s “knowledge” [perception of good/neutral or evil]—which was precisely what was involved in the original Fall to begin with, and which is internal [i.e. starts out as such], rather than external forces like “demons”, or “Satan”, taken inside. This is precisely what Christ had to explain to the Pharisees who similarly took the Law, (with its “touch not, taste not” as Paul scolded Christians for falling back into in Col.2:20-1) and went beyond it. (“the commandments and doctrines of men” are foremost the demand for continued Lawkeeping, which was not saving them, in addition to whatever new “commandments” they added to it).
Even the world has acknowledged that Satan often gets blamed too much for people’s own shortcomings. (And the same fundamentalists, when next going after psychology, criticize blaming external things rather than internal sin).

Satan is supposed to be “defeated”, as acknowledged in Christian teaching, but in practice, he and his minions are ascribed all of this active power everywhere, and all tied in with human “choices”, especially behavior. (This gets into the question of when the “age”, recorded in the NT, when Satan was still “walking about like a lion seeking whom he may devour” ended, and what his “devouring” of people really meant. But he is really portrayed throughout the NT as attacking with “condemnation”, and is resisted by trusting in Christ instead of our own efforts).

Then, from there, in many people’s “concerns”, it’s as if the listener somehow [spiritually] takes on [becomes charged with before God] all the sin the artists or even the other listeners have referenced or done with the music; based largely on the speculation that “what you ‘take in’ will lead you further and further into it”. There are scriptures used to support this (such as 1 Cor.15:33 or Gal.6:7-8), but the problem becomes when they try to stretch them beyond their original contexts [usually in the name of what they call “principles”] to teach general spiritual “philosophies”. (Like in the latter, the context, regarding “flesh” is actually the Law, and in v.13, we even have revealed that their desire to enforce the Law on others is “that they may glory in your flesh”).
Another argument is that if sin put Christ on the Cross, then every sin we commit (or “take pleasure in” [others’ commission of, Rom.1:32]) in effect crucifies Him all over again, or at best makes light of it. This might be what then leads [in their system of interpretations] to Heb.10, about “trampling underfoot the blood of the Son of God” when “sinning willfully”.
This fails to understand the concept of covering, and maintains the purely one-for-one nature of the Law (which then is what actually denies the sufficiency of the Blood and falls closer to what that passage is condemning! Rom.1, it should be mentioned, is addressing specific people Paul was discussing; in fact, those wielding the Law against others, as he identifies in the following chapter).

But the problem is too many people trying to control others’ behavior too much (thinking that’s what creates “holiness” or spirituality or “builds the kingdom”, and this is what religion has become all about, though the Gospel made it clear that that was the problem, not the solution. That is the “flesh”!) That does not mean that those who don’t follow other’s rules or “principles” have no “discernment”, as is basically claimed.

Like for me, I get a funny feeling from the unreleased song “the Bear” (apparently from the Gaucho sessions, though Wikipedia says it was actually produced for Aja!), which starts with it being so cool in sound, with it’s harmonies, done in Clavinet; the keyboard Stevie had made famous, but stopped using by that time. (It uses their typical techniques, but still sounds different from what was on most their albums. That adds to its sense of intrigue. It does have more of the feel of the previous album, The Royal Scam, and is particularly similar to the title track).
But then it starts seeming “too good”, like when everything seems so cool and perfect, then disaster happens. (Like “when they shall say ‘peace and safety‘…” 1 Thess.5:3). The lyrics are pretty haunting, with the chorus starting “There’s a bear that walks like a man; better shake him fast. Better hide yourself while you can, ’cause he wants your ___”. In addition to this, a part of this may have been from the scenery the video showed, which reminded me of WTC (as the song was said to be about Wall St. which is in the same area), and from there, 9-11; especially this being right after the anniversary, and having watched a documentary that showed footage we had never seen, with those images still in my head. (Though other interpreters say it is about drug smuggling, which makes more sense as “bear” is traditionally slang for state troopers, and it also mentions something about traveling “15,000 miles”. “Bear” is also used for Wall st.; “the bear and the bull”; so it could still hold to some extent. In any case, it speaks of impending doom).

So it comes off as something fitting the last thing you listen to the day you head up into the towers and then become trapped; like the soundtrack for the whole scene leading up to the tragedy, and the chorus (with these two high pitched chords over “walks” and “man” sticking out) would play while looking up at the tower one last time. Maybe even looking up at it on fire already. (Something about the sound gives an image of height or tall things. Even the tone of the vocals sounds like something blaring from a loud speaker perched high up on something). It also sounds like the type of thing that would be playing in a drama, and fade out, leading up to someone like possibly a bride, gone in a room by themselves away from the action, taking out the gun to kill themselves. That’s probably where I get this sense of “omen” from. (Also of note is how the opening bassline is nearly identical to the other unreleased song, the rare directly “spiritual” song “My Kind Spirit”).

The same thing had happened with an old Earth Wind and Fire song, when I completed the entire collection with the somewhat rare second album that I had just put on CD. It seemed so perfect to complete the whole collection, but then I got this very strong negative sense about this one song in particular (“I Can Feel It In My Bones”; a title that certainly doesn’t help; and then a nice sounding one after it, and a later one called “Energy”. It gave me the sense of a ritual ground then covered over with a garden or something, or a mother turning one child up for sacrifice, but then nurturing his sibling), and led to me giving away the whole collection! (What made it worse, is that I was trying out this new food, duck bacon, but apparently cooking it wrong, and ended up with this strange looking black meat, while making the transfer to the CD, and then the song wouldn’t record after several tries. I’m usually suspicious of “coincidences” like that that the charismatics around me would hold up as definite “signs” from God; but I was just totally spooked by the whole sequence).

This is an example of “introverted iNtuition”, especially for me, where it shadows the extraverted iNtuition I normally see life through. Music fits an external (environmental) pattern I compare other music with, enjoying the discovery of the multitude of possibilities with it; but now, some imaginal impressions are coming up from an individual unconscious sense (which is considered internal), and imagining some very dark possibility. And so thus (for my type), the functional perspective is generally associated with very negative ego states like this.

And again, this negative dynamic is likely also colored by things the bands do, like EWF’s pagan themes, or SD’s constant veiled sexual themes and later song against God. It could also tie in with something I heard when really young and frightened by something, perhaps in a strange place with tall buildings; so a sound I hear now will subconsciously remind me of that. Which is why it won’t affect others in the same way, and thus can’t always be made into some general “principle” or about something intrinsic in the music itself. There are a lot of different possible factors in something like this, so it’s not right to seize upon one and generalize it. Though it is possible for certain elements of music to have a common affect on nearly everyone, like well-familiar “sad” sounds.
Also, something like more explicit sexual imagery or sounds, social pressure, etc. which will have a similar, physiological or emotional effect on nearly everyone. The problem, again, is when this same “principle” is attempted to be extended beyond this to other alleged “affects”, especially “spiritual” ones, which are not expounded in scripture as much as many teachers have done themselves, and not readily provable or disprovable.

So that’s how I now practice “discernment” in music. Of course, the anti-CCM Christians are also anti-psychology, and would condemn all of this Jungian stuff on top of the music. What we always end up with; just do what they say, because they are always right. Slap a “Bible chapter:verse” on a teaching, find a bit of empirical supposed “evidence”, and you have heard the clear “truth” as if from God Himself! (Of course, no “grey areas” either, one prominent Chick-affiliated writer said.
They also don’t realize that their “the music will lead you to…” or “fill your heart with…” claims is a form of psychology, appealing directly to the “unconscious”! They use the different concepts when it suits their argument, and they can key it into a scripture passage here and there that looks like it pertains. Some things might fit to some extent, but most of the time it doesn’t address their specific “standards, so they have to create broad generalizations into distinct “principles” or even “laws”. Using scripture like that and keying it all into man’s “choices” turns it into psychology!)

Some will then say it’s not really about “negative effects”, but rather simply “pleasing God”. But God is not displeased with us for what others (who are not our children) do, though stuff like “Godwhackers” I definitely won’t listen to. (It’s about loving God, who’s being attacked in that case, not trying to gain favor through fear, or promise of reward, or any other such self-involved motivation. Paul said “all things are lawful to me, but not everything is expedient” in 1 Cor. 6:12 and 10:23, in conjunction with the issue of meats offered to idols, showing that spiritual “discernment” is no longer about “law”, so you cannot turn even the danger of being “brought under the power of any” back into a new law as people have done, so it is futile to try argue purely by speculatory forecasting. That actually serves to bring people under a false “power”).
But much of the argument is “guilt by association”, which is getting away from any solid biblical argument, and when they try to tie it to scriptures like 1 Cor. 15:33 (whose context is the denial of the resurrection negating the practice of the faith), then it ultimately leads back to assumptions of spiritual “affects” again!

Many Christians have made it all about a “culture war” based on “morality”, with these people as the “enemies”, and therefore we should have nothing to do with them, and not even acknowledge any good they do; else, we somehow take on their sins. But as Horton’s Beyond Culture Wars points out (p.70), what they are fighting in stuff like this is “a generation merely acting out its beliefs“, and this “war” is already lost when it comes to that point. So all we can really do is be salt and light ourselves, not run from the world —out of anger at not being able to take it over.

Where all of this highlights the “sinfulness” of man, it’s like “what can you do?” You can become “contrary to all men” (1 Thess.2:15), which seems to be what many Christians, particularly “old-line” conservatives, think we should be. But Paul was referring to those advocates of the Law who opposed the “freedom” of Grace, through Christ. The ones who were actually being reserved for the condemnation they tried to place on everyone else!

All apart of the thing called “life”

I once believed all these people were condemned; judged under the Law, basically (though evangelicals won’t usually put it that way, since “the Law” conveys the notion of certain Old Testament commandments even they don’t keep). I now believe Grace is unconditional, and that makes me feel better about their “fate”, and that God would forgive them (even Fagen’s words), without demanding something in return, as common teaching insists. Many are just trying to get through life, like anyone else, and thus sharing their experience through entertainment people find enjoyable.

So all of the stuff Fagen sings about is a slice of “life”, and coupled with the sound, that is why it has come to be so significant to me. When he jumps from image to image in his unique “storytelling” style (like all the places he mentions in “Snowbound”, or from “up on the hill” to “Chinese music under banyan trees”, to whatever club he does his “dime dancing”, to the arms of the woman he then “runs to”, and the police whistle in the park [during the interlude]), it’s just all pictures of “life” (and love). Just like the bustling “free” living people of the Village.  And hence, the connection. (The Stylistics’ “People Make the World Go Round” might also have the police whistle IIRC, and what I know it does have that sounds like this song is that Asian sounding marimba playing, used in the chorus of that song, and the instrumental interlude of this one).

Songs by other people that remind me of this sense of “life” embodied in Manhattan, are “Rosalinda’s Eyes”, by Billy Joel, which has a lot of rich Fender Rhodes chordal progressions and varied “life experience” and “New York” imagery like Steely Dan (“Crazy Latin dancing solo down in Herald Square…”. It may also have that “police whistle” effect, like “Aja”); Edie Brickell & New Bohemians “What I Am”, which with it’s somewhat Steely Dan-like all over the place lyrics (“Philosophy is the talk on a cereal box…”) is like a late 80’s Village “proto-hipster” song that reminded me of walking down Broadway through Soho with all those shops of theirs during that time (and was like the last moments of “freedom” right before I hit boot camp), Sade’s “Keep Looking” from the same time reminded me of a late sunny weekend afternoon in the Village, feeling lonely (as well as her earlier “Maureen”, about the loss of a close friend, remembering good times together, and wondering what it would be like if the person were still in her life), and then later, Susanne Vega’s “Tom’s Diner”, which is about another similar kind of person recounting the imagery of an average day’s life in an urban diner like the ones you find in the area. Another one that reminded me of a sunny afternoon in the Village is CeCe Peniston’s “I’m Not Over You”. (There was a particular mix that KISS used to play, which I had on my old CD-RW and put up on YT, v=7kr5_Si3x20, and it was a rich Fender Rhodes melody, where the other versions use a less melodic acoustic piano sound. Not sure if it was sampled from something else, as most things like that were at that time, but it really evoked, not only the 70’s in general, but has a harmony that sounds a lot like Steely Dan, with the back and forth “mu”-like chords on the alternate beats. It actually resembles Becker’s solo song “Book of Liars” from the same year!)

A song that brings up general images of the city is All 4 One’s rendition of “Something’s Coming” from the 1996 “West Side Story” CD. It perfectly captures the anticipation of waiting for love, in how the songs begs for this “something” to finally show up, and even pondering on where it could appear from. (“Around the corner, or whistling at the river…”).
(A few tunes not associated with the urban scene, but picture an otherworldly serenity I associate with the anima, are the “Cosmic Cove Galaxy” background score, from Super Mario Galaxy 2, and EWF’s instrumental “Splashes” from their last album. While the sound doesn’t match the sentiment, I like the second verse of WAR’s “the World is A Ghetto”: Wonder when I’ll find … paradise. Somewhere* there’s a home … sweet and nice.” [*sung with real emotion, like sighing the word!] Someone tells me “that’s a lie; the world is not a ghetto”, and they are an “orthodox” evangelical whose theology is the one that teaches that the world is still “lost” and “condemned” with all the increasing “sin” and unbelief in it. But don’t be so “negative” as to sing in terms of it being a “ghetto”! Go figure!)

It’s a shame that the Church historically made it a choice between their controlled culture, and the rest of the “world”. And that stuff like “Godwhackers”, on top of all the drugs, sex and even false religion in secular music, further makes it seem like this, and questions the “goodness” of their artistry. I just wish we were in a physical, millennial or eternal “Kingdom” already, where people’s talents would be redeemed, and God would be at the center of it all, and unmistakably seen and known by all. (Which is one of the things that had lured me to the “futurist” soteriology in the first place).

Again, if you look, dispersed through this 40 year run of song title s, you will see an underlying theme of the Fall, and the troubled sort of lives/lifestyles that have resulted in it, and even hope for a better world. (In addition to “Any World” is the unreleased Gaucho session demo “Talkin’ Bout My Home”, which epitomizes the sound and seems to be about heaven. “Turn This Heartbeat Over Again” seems to be a story of people in lives of crime and substance abuse praying to Jesus [—and Michael; actually one in the same if you’re an Adventist or Jehovah’s Witness!] for another chance. The 2000 comeback title track “Two Against Nature” is supposed to be about how Becker and Fagen are going against the grain of the way “nature” has pulled the music industry and thus how hard it is for them and their sound to thrive in today’s generation).

It seems Fagen, as much as he enjoyed the physical pleasures of the world, was someone very distressed by [what the church considers, and he even addressed it as such a couple of times] its “fallen” state (which is what I struggle with, but our paths through it have been very different. He being more financially successful and somewhat famous, and turning against God and just drowning himself in the pleasures of the world, following “nature” to the hilt; and me turning to God, but still having to struggle with all the difficulties of trying to go against “nature”, including being almost poor, and unknown, and the struggle with other aspects of the faith).
For now, I really wish he would rescind that stuff about God, and find some other way to voice his frustration about His place in a world with painful death. He has still lived the colorful life he sings about, and no religious movement or leader has apparently stopped him and brought him under their control. “Live and let live” (or “believe and let believe”) goes both ways.

I should make clear I’m not saying the lifestyles known by the Church as “sinful” (including stuff like the “free living” of the Village, for instance) are good or “OK”. But they are apart of life as we know it, and which we have to navigate through (see 1 Cor.5:1) as well as dealing with our own sins.
The Gospel is supposed to be about “freedom”, but the church turned it essentially back into Law (greatly modified, and even stepped up in many ways, though), with “grace” as some sort of “help” God now gives us to keep this “magnified” Law. God does not want people just doing whatever they want out there, but our motivation is to be love (to Him, and towards other people, which includes realizing that they are their own living souls, like us, and not objects merely for our own pleasure; see just published rather than the fear and control religion has often used. Having tempered my whole “prime of life” based in large point on that, that’s why at midlife, this stuff is figuring strongly in my reflecting.

I just hope God is true, and that He does forgive all men [unconditionally], (including even Fagen), and that there is something better beyond this, that these “life” feelings points to. (That “Any World” even he would be welcome to, that’s “better than where I come from”). Where good things will be truly good, with no hidden dangers behind them, talents like this will always be used for good, and everyone can recognize everything good is from Him.

  1. Looking up “Gaslighting Abbie”, I see it is a fantasy of a guy and his mistress driving his old partner crazy to get rid of her. That certainly isn’t a positive image of “life” (or other “anima” feelings such as “love”) as I’ve been discussing, and I don’t know why anyone would make something like that the story of such a nice sounding tune.
    To place ourselves in his world of fantasy; it’s like all these women you have such a ball with, and this is what you do to one of them when you’re finished with the relationship, and have started the next one already. (And shouldn’t “cara mia” realize that she’s next; eventually?)

    This, along with “Godwhacker” is the more recent stuff, and it seems they’ve perhaps “grown up” from reminiscing about the “fun” of their younger lives, and now, “life”/relationship stories are taking a darker turn. As this page says “the few studio albums they have thus far recorded in their second wave…is the work of a band with different obsessions.”

    My problem has always been forming emotions around the sounds, and not noticing the words, and with Fagen especially, it’s easy to miss the underlying stories.
    Again, it’s such a shame such talent goes to such dark subject matter such as this.

    I’ve even seen it noted that there are no true “love songs” in Fagen’s career (the closest thing that even sounds like one is actually “Dr. Wu”; about him reminiscing finding comfort, and some sort of good times with his [male] doctor when the woman is jerking him around; and “Aja” and “Almost Gothic” also, I guess), and I imagine, that deep down, it was probably really a very lonely existence probably just going through various women for decades, assuming the relationships were as fleeting as recalled in the songs.

    I, like many guys, once thought I wished I had a life like that (and it should be reminded that the sense of “aspiration” toward his sense of “life” I’m expressing in the above article stems from my own youth pretty much), but even in midlife, when we often fear “what have I done with my life; I’ve missed out on everything”; I’m realizing more and more that I do not or would not have wanted his lifestyle.
    All those women are people; living souls, with their own beauty and other qualities and problems, and not just objects to be used and “gone through” like that. (Sounds yucky going through them as basically pieces of meat, especially with the part of the body such encounters are ultimately most concerned with). As is often said in Christian preaching; each one of them is or was some father’s little girl!

    He as far as I know, has never voiced burnout from being so jaded (like the childhood friend who at one point was trying to urge me to get laid, before I wanted to, and then years later, having been with several women, and been through the whole routine of children, drugs and rehab, etc.; when I’m preaching [“witnessing”] to him; he acknowledges in this “burned out” tone, “it’s all the same”; and notice “it”, and not “they”!)
    But I at least felt happy for him, that he did eventually settle down marrying someone he knew from college. Hope it lasts (surprisingly gone over 20 years; married the same year I was), and he doesn’t gaslight her if he finds someone else and wants out!

  2. Listening through Steely Dan like this on Rhapsody, and how a person lumped them in with Chicago; I decided to flip through Chicago, who similarly has box sets with all the album tracks in order. With over 30 albums; it’s divided into two: “1969-78” and “1979-2008”) I didn’t listen through like I did with Steely Dan, but just skipped through each track. (Which took about as long as to listen through the entire SD ’72-80 set plus some of Fagen).

    I should point out that they were pretty jazzy as well, and started off that way (as is evident in the opening of “Do You Know What Time It Is”, which in the album version has a 1+ minute jazz piano intro I had never heard, before the horn opening I was familiar with). They do in places sound a bit like some of the “transitional” Steely Dan, but as stated, SD went in a totally different direction, of a more funk infused jazz that would become “fusion jazz”.

    I had thought Chicago had changed their sound so much in the 70’s and 80’s, and then more recently, “circled back” around, as I could tell on some of their Christmas songs, which I was impressed with. But they really never changed as much as I thought. The only thing that changed was what was becoming hits.

    “Beginnings”, “Time”, “Make Me Smile” and “25 or 6 to 4” sound one way, (and there was a ballad, “Colour My World”, which I think I remember from being used in a Sesame Street piece, IIRC) “Saturday In The Park” sounds pretty much the same, but is becoming milder, and then “Just You and Me” and “Stronger Every Day” are even milder. Then, you get “Wishing You Were Here” (whose harmony made for a nice companion to Schoolhouse Rock’s “Little Twelve Toes”), and eventually, “If You Leave Me Now” and “Baby What A Big Surprise”; and in to the 80’s, “Hard to Say I’m Sorry” and similar songs, and then at the end of the 80’s, “Look Away”. These were the songs I remember. Entering adulthood, and my sense of “anima” in full swing, and remembering hearing “Beginnings” and “What Time” when really young, and remembering the feelings they conveyed back then (like a very early sense of the anima); I at some point would always hear the name “Chicago” when hearing those two.

    But I had no idea any of those other songs were by the same band! (Like what had happened with Steely Dan). Though again, it would figure “Saturday In the Park” was, for it had the same voice. The thing with the other songs was that this signature deep voice seemed to be permanently replaced by the high pitched voice of Peter Cetera. And by “Look Away”, a totally different voice had taken over.
    And then you get all these ballads with Cetera, and that’s why it sounded so different. I read that when “If You Leave Me Now” became a hit, this then pushed Cetera and a softer “light pop” sound all the more to the front. The band hit a slump for a few albums, and then in ’82, David Foster took over, with his particular style. He was gone by ’88’s “Look Away”, as was Cetera, and so it seemed like a totally different band.

    Their signature sound was the horns, which of course dominated those early hits. They seemed to become a bit more mellow in the early 70’s and are still present in “Wishing You Were Here” (but but mainly in a solo), and then drop out after that; being totally gone by the 80’s, but then coming back more recently. But in reality, they were always there, but in other songs on the albums, that I was not hearing on the radio. Even up to the ’80 album, you still had some songs that still sounded, while not like “Beginnings” or “What Time”, at least a little like “Just You and Me”. (Like “I’d Rather Be Rich”, with the rhythm and horns, though with the tempo, is somewhat disco-influenced).
    Meanwhile, 1979’s “Street Player” (Cetera, lead) is interesting as their biggest attempt with disco. It sounds just like the more funk-oriented “black” disco that was taking over at the time, as the more commercial sound was on its way out.

    It was Foster that changed all that, in favor of a more “80’s rock” flavor, with heavier rock guitars (which largely take the place in background harmony of horns and other orchestral instruments), and of course, the increasing synthesizers coming in. In some respect, this was like an updated return to some of the other earlier songs (besides the more familiar ones, that is), that were more harder rock. The “16” opener, “What You’re Missing” (with Cetera as lead) is like this, and with the classic horns.
    (Though from the opening synths and percussion you know you’ve clearly entered the ’80’s. Some parts of the vocals also sounds very contemporary EWF-ish, and of course, they had hooked up with Foster for several years already by that time. “What Can I Say” has a piano groove similar to “Just You and Me”, plus the horns, but otherwise sounds “modern” for the age. The horns even do an ascending triplet chord sequence at the end that became a signature EWF sound, and I may have heard this in one or two other places, like a similar progression at the end of the second part to “Hard to Say I’m Sorry”).

    The other signature sound of those early songs was that deep voice, and when I found out that someone in the band died (by shooting himself accidentally, when he was on drugs or something), and I figured it must have been that guy; hence him disappearing and Cetera taking over. But then he died in ’78, so that was odd. Where was he all those years leading up to that? I figured he must have been probably a troubled, unhappy person (as his voice even sounds), and having a lot of problems, having fallen to the background of the group. (As sometimes happens in show business).
    Again, most of the songs I remember, from catching on the radio simply weren’t the ones that he was singing in. (I just now find out that he was in fact the lead on “Wishing You Were Here”. I had assumed it was Cetera, though I did note the deep singing voice alternating with Cetera’s high pitch, and wasn’t sure who it was; perhaps Cetera just singing low, or something).

    I was sad, that this guy who I thought wrote and sang lead on those songs that so moved me at 3 or so years old would die like that. [While the album was released in ’69, and “Beginnings” released as a single around the same time, it didn’t chart then, and was rereleased almost two years later. “What Time” didn’t become a single until a year after the album release. I associate both songs as things I initially would generally hear in stores when shopping with Mom, IIRC (hence, part of the “anima” association), and so am not sure if this was before they became charted hits or not].
    But I had assumed there was only one deep voice in the band. I at first thought it was Robert Lamm, whose name I saw on the songs, but then saw that the guy who died was Terry Kath. I saw that he was the lead on “Colour My World” and “Make Me Smile”, and so I assumed “Beginnings” and “What Time” as well.

    Since the lead on “Look Away” had a voice that was a bit deeper than Cetera, it was like he sort of “filled in” for him, though his vocals and the song sounded nothing like the early songs, and I was so sad the sound had changed so much. Then, upon hearing the more recent Christmas adaptations, and figuring the band’s vocalists had been changing continuously (like the Temptations, who have nearly none of their original members), I was amazed at how they now had a “new” lead vocalist whose deep voice had “captured” the sound of the early guy (particularly on “Let It Snow”, “White Christmas” and “Sleigh Ride”). And with the classic horn sound prominent again (which stands out in the opening of “This Christmas”)*, I felt the “old” Chicago I remembered was finally back.

    So going through their whole repertoire, I try to imagine what it would have been like if Kath weas still around through every album after ’77. Which songs would he have ended up leading on? Then, looking back at the track listing for the first album on Wikipedia, I suddenly notice that “Beginnings” and “Time” (in addition to “Saturday in the Park”) were written and sung by Robert Lamm. Who never left the group, and not only that, but is very prominent again, in their modern recordings, including the Christmas ones. So it is the same old Chicago I remembered after all!

    What had happened in the 80’s, is that at the same time Foster came in, Lamm was having some “personal issues” (Wikipedia) that made him unavailable. He has no lead vocal roles in any of the songs on the 16 album, When my wife and I got a greatest hits CD, and I saw “Sorry” was a double song, bundled with something called “Get Away”, which was written by Lamm (and credited to “Lammentations Publishing”), still thinking Lamm was probably the one who died, had thought this was some posthumous recording of some composition he left behind.

    He did come back (but by this time, he was usually singing on a higher pitch, to fit in the current style, and so is hardly recognizable) in the following album, which represented that typical “1984” sound, and his song “We Can Stop the Hurtin'” was cool, and a perfect representation as their entry in that emerging sound (see —and yet with the classic horns! (And also, the altruistic spirit taking over pop at the time, leading up to the following year’s “We Are the World”, which the group contributed another song for).

    And 1991’s “One from the Heart” is a definite “modern” throwback to “Do You Know What Time It Is”! I wish I knew of this song three years later, when I had become briefly nostalgic about old Chicago.
    The opening also resembles “I Love You More Than I loved You Yesterday”, which was like a faster version of “What Time”, and I thought might be Chicago, but was by another band from back then, called “Spiral Staircase”. (When I was asking around, and then that supervisor slammed both Chicago and Steely Dan, I found another coworker who was a big Chicago fan, and he filled me in on all this stuff).
    The way Lamm sings in ’78’s “Love Was New”, coupled with the horns, also evokes the old songs. His lead and the horns evoked the early 70s’ hits in ’80’s “I’d Rather be Rich”.

    Now comparing the vocals of “Beginnings” and “What Time” with “Color My World”, I see the voices are actually different. Kath is deeper than Lamm. Lamm can sound higher pitched, and almost halfway like Cetera at times (which helps the alternating transition in “Saturday in the Park”). Kath has this “old black blues singer” inflection a lot of the time, and was even described by Lamm as “the white Ray Charles”!

    It should also be mentioned, that Kath still had a few lead vocals, through the ’77 album, but then died the following January, I guess before they started recording that year’s release, and so that was it for him. He was eventually replaced by a guy named Bill Champlin, who happened to be the lead in “Look Away”! He left in ’08, to be replaced by Lou Pardini, to the present. Cetera left for a solo career in ’85, and was replaced by the nearly identically sounding Jason Scheff.

    *”This Christmas” was a song that actually reminded me a bit of the old Chicago, as the first version I became familiar with was the 1990 Harry Connick version (recorded for special album A Jazzy Wonderland, and which differed from the later version on his own Christmas album), which had these blaring Chicago-like horns. (And this mind you, given to me on the same tape as Fagen’s “Snowbound” and several Herb Alpert songs, which also had a distinctive 60’s horn sound, but I first heard the name with his 1979 hit “Rise”, and as with Chicago and Steely Dan, never imagined it was the guy who did those old Bacharach songs like “This Guy’s In Love With You”, which were right up there with the two Chicago songs, in so stirring my young emotions. I particularly like his calm rendition of “Let It Snow”, which is that classic 60’s “elevator music” or “Muzak” sound of his, and always plays in my mind in my holiday [suburban] Nassau Hub trips, and in recent years, Music Choice has been playing “The Bell That Couldn’t Jingle” to death, but that’s the only one by him they play).

    So “This Christmas” of course has that distinctive opening and refrain with the repeating 7/4 timed measure, usually done with horns. Most of them, the final chord is the same both times, but in Connick’s 1990 version, the second one steps down a bit to a chord that sounds Chicago-like. That was what I became familiar with, and then hearing other versions, with the same chord (including Hathaway’s original) it didn’t sound right. And several years ago, happy to actually see a Chicago Christmas album out, with the song, I had hoped that their interpretation would do likewise, but it doesn’t. (There’s one other rendition of the song I’ve heard somehwere that does that, slightly.
    While of the three songs I mentioned, “White Christmas” is Lamm, “Sleigh Ride” and “Let It Snow” are actually credited to another founding member and horn player Lee Loughnane, who began getting occasional lead vocals slots later, so I was not familiar with him. The lead for “This Christmas” is Scheff).

    He is credited as lead on seven of the eleven tracks on the most recent album, last year’s “XXXVI: Now” (And on discogs, I’m not seeing a lead credited for “Nice Girl”, but that sounds like him too, but could be Pardini or Loughnane). The uptempo songs with Lamm as lead (and thus the closest throwbacks to “What Time”) are “Something’s Coming, I Know” and “Naked in the Garden of Allah”.

    Overall, a lot of the older stuff besides the hits was this really wild (at times) sounding mix of jazz, psychedelic funk and rock, and sometimes is like “hard rock”, but with other instruments replacing the “metal”. I actually don’t really like a lot of it, and find Steely Dan to have a much more interesting sound and run (however, Chicago’s subject matter is far more “innocent”! 1980’s “Thunder and Lightning” has these weird chord changes that resemble stuff Steely Dan did, but by that year, they had gone light years ahead on the overall sound, on Gaucho).

    As an example, I find that “I’m A Man”, from the first album, is something whose chorus I also clearly remember as something I would hear occasionally (“I’m a maaaaaannn, yes I am and I can’t…[fades to bkg]” didn’t know it was them, of course). It’s the type of sound as Watts 103rd’s “Do Your Thing”, and to some extent, EWF’s first two [WB] albums (including the horns on other songs).

    And of course, in recent years, Chicago has been paired in tours with that other significant group known for its horn section (and receiving a boost from David Foster); Earth, Wind & Fire! I’ve been seeing ads for a tour currently going on these days.

  3. Also flipped through the two solo albums of the other main Steely Dan member, Walter Becker. The first one sounds so different. There is still a touch of Steely Dan, but the complex, layered chordal hooks I liked obviously followed Fagen. Here, there are still some of the chords, but they seem spread out more (and usually in choruses only, while verses are pretty plain), so the sound is overall more “subdued”. This album I imagine is basically what Steely Dan might have sounded like if they had not changed to a purely “smooth” jazz-funk harmony-focused motif, and had simply updated the older “rock with a touch of country” sound of the first two or three albums!

    This first album (11 Tracks of Whack, 1994) is the one co-produced by Fagen (While Becker had produced Fagen’s previous year Kamakiriad), which is part of what marked the start of their getting back together as Steely Dan at the end of the decade! He was nowhere mentioned in the second album (Circus Money, 2008), which is for the most part, a reggae album, though again with some of the subdued harmonic style.

    The most SD-like songs on the first album are “Book of Liars” (also performed by the band in the following year’s “Alive In America” tour), “Cringemaker” (whose chords faintly echo “Peg”), and “Hat Too Flat”. On the second album, it’s “Selfish Gene” and especially “Paging Audrey”. With that one, though a review for the first album, I could see why this article would claim “We find out who put the edge into Steely Dan.” The chords remind me of some of the radical new ones they were continuing to push in the Gaucho sessions, with “Glamour Profession” or especially “Kulee Baba”. (“Hat Too Flat” as well). So where Fagen’s solo works continued the richer overall harmonies, Becker’s has the more harder hitting chords in places.
    Title track “Circus Money” resembles unreleased Aja/Gaucho demo “Standing by the Seawall”. “Upside Down” sounds a lot like Gaucho‘s closer, “Third World Man”. The last track of this last album, “Three Picture Deal”, greatly resembles the last track of Fagen’s last album, “Planet D’Rhonda”, even down to the rhythm/groove.

    Becker’s voice is very different, being rather deep and greatly resembling Chicago’s Lamm or Kath.
    So Fagen, being the voice of Steely Dan (with the exception of three songs on the first album, and Becker’s “Slang of Ages” on the last album), and being the keyboardist, while Becker was the guitarist, and I prefer the keyboard sounds, this is why Fagen is more the continuity of Steely Dan, like in my playlist.

  4. Just having completed yesterday the familiarization of the 40 year 120 song run from “Do It Again” to “Planet D’Rhonda”, I’m heading home just now, “What A Shame About Me” playing in my head, reading the FB feed, and I see his face and the caption beginning “Steely Dan founder Don Fagen…”, and I’m like “Uh, Oh!”, realizing how old these guys, as well as others such the Chicago members are, and figuring any of them could go at any time, and especially brought to mind with another rash of celebrity deaths just occurring, the most significant, and surprising being Natalie Cole (and basically drug-related, which is certainly like Fagen), and the photo looks just like the sort used in death reports.

    But instead, it’s a physical marital conflict:

    Steely Dan Founder Donald Fagen Charged With Assaulting Wife

    As stated in the main article, above, I was surprised to see he eventually settled down, from all that woman chasing he sang about, and was happy he had apparently found a stable partner, and wondered how things went with them. Apparently, things are not well. Pretty sad.
    (Now, it looks like it will be back to “On the Dunes” for him, which was an incredibly sad ballad about loneliness I was just paying more attention to the verses of today, and that came out on the album released the year he got married, and perhaps reflected his feelings before marrying this person).

    I was thinking these days, from seeing all the photos of him, from the early band days to the solo albums, and even his performances, he (despite all the pleasures he’s lived and sang about) that he does look like a pretty unhappy person. Seems like the making of another one of those “Christianeze” clichés, about how “that worldly lifestyle” people want “doesn’t make anyone happy” or “satisfy”, etc. Still, not every non-Christian lives as he did, or does things like this.

    All I know about him (from the basic biographies online) is he was raised in an at least culturally Jewish household (he had a bar-mitzvah; but don’t know how otherwise religious the family was), then went to college upstate, and then started peforming music and eventually put together the band, singing largely about his wild adventures in college. Sounded like happy times (though again, by “Babylon Sister”, he was apparently reaching ennui with that, and then you had the other songs like “Any World” and “Caves of Altimira”, which seemed like someone not happy with life, at least as far as the state of the world).

    Not really knowing much about people at all (my whole life has been framed around my own “abnormalcy”, which was from AS, which no one knew about, compared to the “normal” or “functioning” world); Fagen’s life was obviously very different from mine, and to “normal” young men, is the picture of the perfect life. So I wonder what was the problem. Maybe Eminent Hipsters gives more insight into things, but I don’t know when or If I’ll ever get around to reading that.

    Having recently reread and done some editing on one of my pantelism essays ( where I address the teachings of a certain “fundamentalist” Christian leader who follows the typical antisemitic “paleo-con” ideology of blaming Jews for the sins of [the California-based] pop-culture (where neo-con Christians are usually very Zionist), I could imagine him taking something like this story, and some of the songs as proof of his view. Beliefs like that are of course greatly generalized, and stem from the “splitting” of all sin from one’s own identity (which of course extends to ones’ group).

    I know many Christians rebelled against all the repression and hypocrisy they saw growing up. I’m not sure of the dynamic within the Jewish culture. It might be similar, as it too has has an “orthodox” religious segment that is full of strict, rigorous rules (more than Christianity, in fact). Then, there are differing degrees and sects of orthodoxy, and you have “Reform” and “Progressives”, and just plain nominals (where “Jewish” is really nothing more than the ethnic identity, and they could be another religion, if not atheist. This is obviously the category Fagen falls in).

    I do not know of the relationship of the more and less orthodox groups. I know the orthodox would naturally believe someone like him needs to “repent” (and whether they believe his blasphemy is too serious to ever be repented of ⦅like perhaps the Torah’s proscripting of executing or at least “cutting off” certain sinners from the people⦆ I wouldn’t know), but orthodox Jews have not been known to wield hellfire threats to control people like fundamentalist Christians became world reknown for. That’s what drove a lot of people from the Church in heated rebellion.
    In fact, their views of the afterlife are rather cloudy, from a Christian perspetive, at least, as the more developed heaven/hell concept of the Church came largely from the book of Revelation (and there is even question whether those were interpreted right, as preterist eschatology believes images such as “New Heavens and New Earth” refer to salvation in this life. So then the concept of the afterlife becomes cloudy here as well).

    Of course, the incredible suffering the entire group went through not too long ago, is what would also make many angry at or question God. The most well known example of this is Elie Wiesel (whom Philip Yancey mentioned a few times in Disappointment With God, and reading that in a tough time in my life; I could relate to some of his sentiments, like regarding the book of Job).

    I had originally planned this discussion for the original article, but then dropped it, as it really should not matter what background one comes from, when assessing the anti-God or ungodly songs. (In addition to “Godwhacker”, and “Abbie”, another one that is troubling is “Everyone’s Gone to the Movies”, which has a nice catchy chorus, but is about a man luring underage teens to watch porn, leaving the parents ⦅if the interpretation of it I saw is right⦆ to [half-truthfully] think they’ve simply “gone to the movies”, and be happy that “now we’re alone at last!” Like, man!; dude!; if you must sing about something like that, at least have them be already turned 18! ⦅I wonder how stuff like this passed the stricter censorship of the 70’s⦆. I sometimes wonder if some of this might be more from Becker’s influence, as Fagen’s solo projects don’t seem to be this bad ⦅I know Becker seems to curse more, with the “f” word right in the chorus of “Junkie Girl”⦆. Though who knows what’s under the surface).

    So while the Church scared people with hell, and can try to attribute whatever “restraint” of sin in the past, or what little remaining today to that, again, it still ultimately leads to much more problems (Which then have to be blamed on other societal forces).
    We can’t blame a combination religion/cultural identity for this, for not simply scaring the people with hell. (Christian antisemitism basically stemmed from the notion of Jews as “Christ-killers”, and so I guess from that, they came to see them as particularly “godless”, and the whole tag of the “secular media” (and entertainment) on them looked like it supported that. ⦅Here’s an article that aims to debunk part of that:⦆. In any case, the whole point of the story of Christ’s death is not to blame a group of people who happened to be involved with demanding it; the point was that He died because of all our sins ⦅so again, we’re all “godwhackers”⦆. I really don’t even know how exactly antisemites really justify their hatred today, other than like the anti-black “dog whistlers”, trying to appeal to “fact”, via “associations” basically. But again, the “facts” are greatly skewed and overgeneralized).

    Still, trying to assess where this sadness and hedonism (in the midst of the talent) must have come from (once again, yes, it’s “sin”, but then sin does not manifest like this in everyone)

    From my Christian background which categorized the world into the “saints”, and the “sinners”, the inclination is to say “BAD man!” (I can hear young Billy Mumy “You’re a BAD man! A VERY bad man!”)
    But he’s just a person, who for whatever reason has developed this way. We say “it’s sin”, but everyone is a sinner (a mistake many Christians seem to make, in thinking they’ve “put away” all of theirs, and that state is only “past” for them. And as I had been thinking, in light of this whole topic, shunning people because of arts that we think will “corrupt” us maintains the typical “us vs them” mindset). He is very talented, and probably richly rewarded for it, as this world often does.

    So all I can do is just hope he gets hisself together.

  5. Steely Dan’s “Aja”: Eight Minutes of Genius

    “Clocking in at eight minutes, ‘Aja’ was the longest song the Dan recorded, and the most intricate. Its sophisticated structure makes it more like a suite than a single song. In fact, Becker and Fagen created it by combining several of their unfinished songs“. On the YouTube video of the unreleased “Standing By the Seawall”, there’s a citation: “According to Brian Sweet’s ‘Steely Dan: Reeling in the Years’ – Becker and Fagen inserted parts of a discarded composition entitled Stand By The Seawall into AJA.”; so I guess that was true, though the songs sound completely different (the former more resembles “I Got the News” from the Aja album

    Though it too, like “Aja” contains several different musical statements, including a later one that I could see fitting “Aja”, but I’m not sure.
    It still could have stood on its own. Continuing: “Producer Michael Omartian, says Sweet, ‘couldn’t understand why Becker and Fagen had given up on it – he thought the song was “totally cool”‘.” They should have just taken it, and the numerous Gaucho session songs, and thrown together the 1981 album that was supposed to be produced when they broke up instead.

  6. Sound so good that it’s nice to listen to piano tutorials, which further highlight the genius:

    At the end of this one, you can hear Michael McDonald’s chorus background all by itself:

  7. Please don't break the window, the A/C is on, he has water, and is listening to meme

    Saw this on FB one day, and though how interesting they would choose that act, but then found it was a general meme, that originally said “his favorite music”, likely.

    Still, one of the comments on this page says “I seriously never had any attraction to Steely Dans music.They definitely have a unique sound. They are a band you either love or hate, no in between.” This in response to “Steely Dan? Somebody get that dog out of there, he’s suffering horribly.” Another one answers “DOG LOOKS HAPPY TO ME!”

    Similarly, this documentary video says that their “mocking tone has turned a lot of people off to their music”, like “Deacon Blues” illustrating “how ridiculous it was to give sports teams majestic names like University of Alabama’s ‘Crimson Tides'” (6:32ff).
    So that’s a clue of why the ardent haters. I recently mentioned in the typology section another one I found, when relating how “Godwhacker” is likely a “demonic introverted Feeling” projection, and then the other person (an Fi dom) relates not liking them (and then throws in Chicago when I mentioned the person who hated both groups years ago), and Stevie and other similar jazzy acts. Another INTP testified to liking them, and being put off by such strong feelings against them in response to my passing mention. This shows the great divide between Ti (introverted Thinking) and Fi.

    But all of this typological thinking, greatly sparked off by Beebe’s and Hunziker’s books (Seeing how engrossed I got into Five Points, and then SD, and next, almost Darién Gap, I figured I needed to get more back into type), I just now realize what a clear example of the Ti-Fe “spine” was located in the song “Fire In the Hole” (one of two I really relate to personally, the other being “Any World”), and decided to create this meme:

    Most likely ISTP (Ti. dom. like me, but with extraverted Sensing instead of iNtuitiion; and thus the same “spine” but different “arms”), here they portray dominant introverted Thinking’s frustration with the often irrational “order” of the world (usually imposed on us in a critical fashion), coupled with the voice of the extraverted Feeling “anima” complex that tries to pacify the Ti ego into a focus on others. This is also what I’ve always felt inside, but then protest that it will lead to me being a “doormat”. Yet, we learn from Beebe’s theory that this is the call toward maturity a Ti dom. may have to deal with in midlife.

    No would-be interpreters would think of this, likely not knowing of Beebe’s theory or Jung in general. Assuming the writers probably not knowing much of it either, they were probably unaware of this meaning themselves. They probably had some other concept they were thinking of, but these archetypal dynamics often create parallel meanings, like in our dreams. So, on this page: most were basically literal views of “war”, as the actual origin of the term, or just dealing with authority figures (including demanding partners) in general. The one that comes closest to it is Scottdot on March 11, 2011, “It seems to be about the author’s experiencing frustration at his ‘day job’ as he works to support himself and his share of band expenses. He told he is lazy because he is not pursuing the standard American dream through a corporate job. ”

    He loses the right idea, then, by saying “‘to serve and not to speak” is literal and “an instruction to him as as a waiter.” I should have figured with the original writing of the main article, but it is clearly a typical call by the “anima”, the contrasexual archetypal complex of “otherness” associated with the diametrically opposite “inferior” function. I often get this same feeling when protesting all that is wrong with the world, all of its unreasonable demands of conformity and judgments when we don’t comply, and making us feel we’re freaks, when it could be said that they’re the ones who are screwed up, which is what they were doing. (Like, see recent comments on Trump and his following, including Christians. And right as I’m typing this, I’m hearing my wife’s prayer meeting in the other room, with them, including now her I’m hearing for the first time, speaking in tongues, which was just one kind of worship in the NT, and a deprecated one at that [and differing from the original supernatural sign in Acts], that has been elevated to the universal means of communicating with God, in many “charismatic’ church circles today, all starting from a kind of “revival” that started in one church 120 years ago, and then just spread and became popular without thought. I feel like I myself, struggling with God’s involvement in the world, had no answers or better “guidance” or alternatives to give, and so this is what “won out”, hands down).
    It’s also the typical “P in a J world” clash.

    This is from the first album, and right off the bat, they were frustrated with the music industry they were entering, and essentially had to change the sound they wanted to a more country-tinged rock in order to get the contract, and only once in, could change back to what they wanted.

    Well today’s the last day of their annual “Homecoming at the Beacon” wrap-up of their summer/fall tours. Snuck up there last week, to see the outside of the theater and the people waiting to go inside at 8 (went to that Trader Joe’s instead of the ones downtown. A couple of times ended up going up there when the other ones ran out of stuff. Had noticed the theater because of its flashy LED marquee, and only recently realized this was where SD was playing their “homecoming” at; I kept thinking it was Webster Hall or something down in the Village).
    Also saw this on FB as well: and it makes Countdown To Ecstasy #1. The same album was also added to the Beacon rotation (played last night, I believe), which previously was only the last three (the “mu II”-infused “classic” period). Don’t know what it is about this album, which sounds more like the first one; but it’s likely because “Becker and Fagen may have hemmed in their jazzy tendencies for the sake of wider accessibility in Can’t Buy a Thrill, but they let it all go for their sophomore effort“, with “a stylistic variety to this set of eight songs—that remains unparalleled among the band’s studio albums”.

    Here’s the “TV Tropes” entry on them (I didn’t know they did musical groups too):

    Also this week, hearing Billy Joel’s “Big Shot” reminded me how similar he is to Steely Dan in places. This is from the 52nd Street album which also includes “Rosalinda’s Eyes” (mentioned in the OP as one of those “anima”-inducing songs like “Aja”), along with the hits “My Life” and “Honesty”. The cover shows him trying to look “hip” standing alongside a brick building wall in a jacket and with a brass instrument or something. This whole “New York State of Mind” (another of his well known titles) posture reminds me so much of Fagen and his conceptual premise. He’s a bit heavier on the sappy ballads, though.
    (He also did the song “Leave a Tender Moment Alone”, which for me provided the background sound of the Riis “24 Baxter St.” photo at the center of the Five Points interest. Wikipedia oddly associates this song with Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, though the other apparent “homage” connections, such as the upbeat “Tell Her About It” to the Supremes and Temptations, and “Uptown Girls” to Frankie Valli do figure more).

    Another song on this album “Zanzibar” really sounds like Steely Dan, and in fact, on Allmusic, it says “Often, his moves sounded as if they were responses to Steely Dan — indeed, his phrasing and melody for ‘Zanzibar’ is a direct homage to Donald Fagen circa The Royal Scam, and it also boasts a solo from jazz great Freddie Hubbard à la Steely Dan”. As for the “old Steely Dan”, “Barrytown” reminds me a bit of “Allentown” (If for nothing more than the titles. I know that one, because my wife had some of his stuff, and we listened to a bunch of it years ago).

    Video of cool Sat. evening “atmosphere” of the show.

  8. Not about SD, but another side of the whole “anima” dynamic:

    I’ll have to say that with all the breakup/lost love songs coming out at that time, this has to be the most beautiful one ever. I don’t think I remember it from the 70’s (though I do remember hearing the group’s later disco hit “Mainline” occasionally). It was in the 80’s, when R&B stations were playing a lot of 70’s stuff in their “slow jams” evening shows that I used to hear this, (and “You and I” and “Don’t Turn around”).

    On the surface, it’s a typical heavily orchestrated tune like what nearly everyone was doing at the time (and so easy to take for granted). It’s actually one of the examples I had in the back of my mind here:, when comparing Stevie, under TONTO co-production, with the “conventional” style nearly everyone else used. (So I referred to “Midnght Train To Georgia”, as it was more popular, but “I’ll Find A Way” is the more extreme example of the strings-dominant sound).
    I don’t even usually pay attention to words, but “I’m the loneliest man in town” stood out, and the desperate hopefulness of “maybe she’ll come back, maybe soon, maybe then I can live…“, coupled with the emotion conveyed by the orchestral harmony throughout the whole thing, with the horns stepping up in the ad-lib following the second chorus, giving the sense of crying from the bottom of your heart (followed by the above omitted ad-lib “I love her so”).

    Really portrays losing the love of your life; like losing your soul! The tune in the opening verses reminds me of a nice sunny day, which would be perfect to spend with someone you love so much, but instead, “she’s – nowhere to be found… I – might as well not be around“.
    I’ve never even experienced anything like that in my life, but it is so moving! So well written and arranged! One of a kind!

    Glad all three of them are still going strong! (They were only teens when recording the first album. They look like it on the cover. They even have new tracks for sale online. Sounds basically like typical modern EWF. Their original sound here was also not too different from the orchestrated tunes on EWF’s first Columbia album, and they also sound a lot like the earlier Philly sound, especially the Delfonics and Stylistics even though they’re from Harlem).

    As far as SD, on another FB post on a fan group, someone asked what the first album song “Kings” was about (that’s one I hadn’t tried to figure out yet), and someone points out:
    “It’s about ‘welcoming’ King John’s rise to power in 1199, England. A bit ironic in that he was one of the worst kings in history, but best known for signing the Magna Carta, sort of a prototype Constitution. Lyrics include: ‘And though we sung his fame we all went hungry just the same.’ Great song!”

    Another had spelled it out: “Think the point is that the common man goes hungry just the same-no matter who rules.”

    That’s so relevant in today’s political climate, where people put so much stock in these presidents. But to me, life has been pretty much the same (mediocre comfort, yet constantly struggling just to maintain that living standard). So this makes the song more significant to me. The chorus is pretty catchy:

    We seen the last of Good King Richard
    Ring out the past his name lives on
    Roll out the bones and raise up your pitcher
    Raise up your glass to Good King John

  9. A blog that did the sort of old picture sleuthing I’ve done on the Five Points, to locate the scene of the album cover of Pretzel Logic!

    The big word these days has been Fagen voicing frustration of running out of money and having to do all these tour circuits just to survive. He’s even created a new band, “The Nightflyers”, and alternates in touring between them and SD.

    We also along the way got a new song: did a duet with Tom Rundgren, in an anti-Trump song called “Tin Foil Hat”

    Typical Fagen sound with the chords and all.

  10. ☹
    Steely Dan’s Donald Fagen on Walter Becker: ‘Hysterically Funny, a Great Songwriter’

    This was sudden news this morning, and many of us at first didn’t believe it because the only source at first was his own site, and people thought it might have been hacked, as had happened to other celebrities. Entertainment magazines like Rolling Stone began picking it up, but it was still sourced only on the site. So now that Don has spoken, this is official word. By now, NYTimes also has it:

    He had been very ill lately, and missed two shows.
    While Donald provided the keyboard jazz genius I like so much (And Walt was the guitar genius), Walt always conveyed more of the “hipster” or “bohemian” image that goes along with their classic period sound, to me.

    Next day edits:

    This article highlights the behind-the-scenes “edge” he put into the songs:

    Where most guitar heroes of his era charged into the center ring with fistfuls of notes and blazing chords, Becker preferred to sneak in through the back door, and in just a few measures and fewer notes, rearrange all the furniture. The result was something instantly riveting that you’d want to hear again and again — even if (especially if) you were not even paying attention to what the guitar was doing. Forget about the moment of solo glory; Becker wanted — and attained, with astounding consistency — the thick and undeniable vibe that made a piece of music magnetic.

    The duo worked on the lyrics and every other aspect of the songs together, and though Fagen was the “voice” of Steely Dan, his edge-of-sarcasm tinge needed softening. The sleek, streamlined cool of the music, that faint essence of sophisticated lounge culture, helped offset the abrasion of the lead vocals. Much of that “interior” sonic landscaping can be traced to the stealthy spotlight-avoiding Walter Becker.

    Investigate any of the Steely Dan songs that became earworms, and somewhere in the vicinity of the vocal hook, you will find a slight, seemingly insignificant instrumental gesture, a morsel that lifts the music higher. The angular five-note opening phrase of “Josie” from Aja. The burbling talkbox-guitar counterpoint that underpins the sordid tale of a “Haitian Divorce” or the talkbox emulation of Depression-era brass on “East St. Louis Toodle-Oo.”

    All of those moments are improvisational, and reveal unique traits of each contributing instrumentalist. Yet they’re also the deliberate product of the duo’s refined aesthetic — if Becker is somewhat invisible from note to note on the records, he and Fagen are inescapable as creators and refiners of a instantly identifiable sound. Very few rock-era acts evolved the way Steely Dan did — from a modest live unit into architects of a high-gloss, impossible-to-replicate studio signature that sprouted new atmospheres with each album.

    Walter Becker, Major Dude, RIP

    But Becker [who always sounded amusingly disappointed by humanity, with a tone of aged and weary sagacity that he appeared to have had adopted around adolescence] and Steely Dan’s terrible secret was a moral imperative: a desire that people – not least themselves – could be better. Their satires were rooted in a sadness that the world wasn’t a smarter place and, if they weren’t quite so brilliant to work out how it could be improved, at least they could compensate by making it sound perfect. The contrast between the gleaming surfaces of Steely Dan’s records and the terrible flaws exposed by their lyrics sounds less, these days, like a delicious irony, and more like a chronic poignancy.

    “I don’t think these are particularly cynical times,” Becker told Michael Watts in 1976. “You just wait to see what’s coming up! I’m inclined to think that things are going to become far more pessimistic.

    “Of course, pessimism and cynicism are not the same thing at all. Cynicism, I contend, is the wailing of someone who believes that things are, or should be, or could be, much, much better than they are.”

  11. Interesting articles on Becker:

    Steely Dan’s Quiet Hero: Inside Walter Becker’s Troubled Life, Wry Genius
    He was a brilliant perfectionist behind one of rock’s most eccentric bands – even if he preferred life in the shadows

    Walter Becker: An Appreciation

    And today is the 40th anniversary of the release of the definitive Aja!

    ‘Aja’ at 40: Why Steely Dan’s Audiophile Masterpiece Is Also Kind of Punk

  12. Now, some more details, from his wife:

    Walter Becker’s Widow Details Steely Dan Co-Founder’s Swift Illness, Death
    “He just ran out of time much sooner than any of us thought possible,” writes Delia Becker

  13. The final frontier for SD familiarization for me now is the “Pre-SD 1968-71” period. It seems the complete extant set of songs is the 28 released on the “Android Warehouse” or “Steely Dan 2000 Collection” CD’s, consisting of six songs that would be later rerecorded for albums (Caves of Altamira, Parker’s Band, Barrytown, Brooklyn, Any World, Charlie Freak), and 22 others; 17 of them previously released on various partial sets called “Sun Mountain”, “Roaring of the Lambs”, “Berry Town”[sic] (titles were taken from songs in the set) and others.

    I ran across many of these songs on Youtube, and became familiar with a few due to their surprisingly advanced jazziness, sounding like primitive “Katy Lied” songs (like Dr. Wu). Particularly “Old Regime” and “Android Warehouse”. That style had been minimized in adopting more of a rock sound, to get their first contract.

    So I’ve curious about the timeline of these songs. Which ones were from the 60’s (and thus the first stuff they ever did and oldest we’ve heard from them), and which were ’71? (Closest to their commercial debut).

    From what I know so far, Don and Walt met in college in ’67, then began playing different gigs, and I guess [eventually] recording these songs. Future band member Denny Dias first hired Don and Walt after placing an ad for a bassist and keyboardist in summer ’70. If Dias is in all of these songs, that would mean they were from ’70 at the earliest. Not knowing the difference between his or Becker’s style, I wonder if some of the songs are from before Dias (because Becker plays guitar too). But still, which ones? (Like who’s on guitar in “Brain Tap Shuffle” or “Let George Do It”? That sounds pretty much like the stuff on the albums! BTS also has a full background vocal section, including females. One person on a FB SD Fans group commented “Denny’s guitar style is easy to distinguish from the others, he never bends a note”).

    Inbetween, they “peddled their songs in the Brill building” (Which I had never heard of, but I find was quite familiar to me as the location of the old Broadway Arcade and Colony Records near Times Square! This was after Don graduated Bard College in ’69), and were discovered by the group Jay & The Americans. (I see them described on Wikipedia as having a “Beatles/Beach Boys” sound, and this is what some of this stuff sounds like a bit). Jay worked there and took interest in them. They became songwriters under him, and this eventually led to the last project before their first official album, which was “Walk It Like You Talk It” (the soundtrack of a lesser comedy starring Richard Pryor; usually dated 1971, but on Allmusic, I see a photo that has a 1970 copyright). This was only Don, Walt and Denny Dias at this point. The other songs I also see attributed to “Fagen/Becker/Diaz[sic]” sometimes.
    This is then their first recorded album, rather than “Can’t Buy A Thrill”. (So they actually debuted with a movie soundtrack, where others usually have to become big before they get to that point, but then this is usually when they’ve gone “commercialized”, and not as good as their earlier stuff!) After that, they were finally were hired by Katz/ABC as staff songwriters. (One of their songs being Barbra Streisand’s “I Mean To Shine”. It has the basic form of one of their songs, but is done up in a more conventional production with orchestration and all).

    Then there’s also “Runnin’ Child”, which sounds like the 68-71 songs, but on the YT comments, I see someone saying it included other band members Baxter and Hodder and was recorded late ’71 or early ’72. This then was the completed SD band, and so would be right before the first album. (And would explain why it was left off of all the compilations).
    It recently appeared in a video called “72 Demo Reel” bound together with an updated “Any World” (acoustic piano replacing the electric keyboard, but still otherwise sounds like the old demo), “Come Back Baby” (one of the older songs; sounding identical) and the original version of a later demo song called “Talkin’ Bout My Home”, but is here called “Megashine City”. Inbetween, a video of a “completed” version of the song by Drew Zingg (a performer in the modern SD, and others such as Boz Scaggs, who’ve been touring together) had surfaced, which was called “Megashine City”, but was instrumental. Before that, we had the SD “Gaucho” session versions, which were just Fagen on vocals and usually just a piano. “Megashine City” in the chorus was replaced by “the city in the sky”. (And so I thought it was talking about Heaven, and thus another sort of “spiritual” song, like “My Kind Spirit”, also from the Gaucho sessions).

    These newer versions of the song were obviously later SD-styled, with the familiar “Mu II” sounds, but this original that surfaced now, sounds more like Reelin’, being a shuffle rock song (the later versions dropped the shuffle for a standard “cut time” version of regular 4/4), and has a guitar solo evoking Reelin’.

    I wonder if “SD2000/Android Warehouse” somehow arranges them in order (or is an attempt to), as the newer sounding stuff like “Don’t Let Me In”, “Soul Ram”, and “Old Regime” are later in the set, and the earlier stuff is simpler; often with just piano, and it seems no guitars (so is this the pre-Dias stuff?); and then, you get mostly a different sounding guitar playing in “Undecided” (sounds like the typical 60’s Beach Boys or even early Chicago sound). Otherwise, the style of guitar playing and soloing we are familiar with from SD really seems to start with Brain Tap Shuffle; almost halfway through (it and Brooklyn being the last 2 tracks on first CD). Nearly everything after that has guitars (Android Warehouse, Stone Piano and Soul Ram are the exceptions).

    It’s interesting how “soulish” they sound in songs like “I Can’t Function”, “Come Back Baby” and “A Horse in Town”. The piano in “A Little With Sugar” sound like The Hawkins Singer’s “Oh Happy Day” (but then they throw that “Royal Scam” [or Isleys “Harvest For the World” intro] chord in there). “Don’t Let Me In”, and again, “Soul Ram”, and “Old Regime” sound even more advanced in their sound. The overall sound also has less of that “country” touch than the first album and the “Dallas” single. (There was no steel pedal guitar, which is part of the inspiration for the band name). It seems they changed their sound a bit to get that first contract, but then circled back around to it, and beyond.

    So I’m wondering which of these stages these recordings are from? The stuff they performed in college? (That is, if any; and which ones; and, of course, it would be whatever was before Dias). Or is it the stuff they wrote for ABC? Are these “garage” recordings they made at home or whatever? (Obviously not full studio quality. Wikipedia calls it “lo-fi production”. Some of the later stuff like BTS and Old Regime have vocal effects that sound studio-produced even though the overall sound is still low quality).

    From what I’ve gathered, with some input from the FB group, most of these were produced under Jay and the Americans. At least the half that sound more professionally produced. That would place them around ’70. I still wonder what the ’68 recordings were. I imagine maybe the other half that are just a simple piano, sounding even more bare, like they could have been produced at the school piano with just a cheap tape recorder. Both “You Go Where I Go” (the very first track on the collections) and “Any World” use this primitive sounding electronic keyboard, that reminds me of the cheap looking upright electric pianos I saw in the music department of my college. So I’m wondering if those could be among the songs recorded while they were still in the school.
    (Again, for some reason, three of the more produced songs are on the first disc, and three simple ones are on the second disc).

    Of the ones I hadn’t become familiar with before, “Ida Lee” deserves special mention, for its simple sound of the alternating measures with just the simple acoustic guitar and the bass. The chorus guitars and vocals sounds 60’s, but the verses sound so “them”, and so modern; like you could picture going into some little club today and see some little band playing it. It would practically fit on the last two SD albums, and reminds me a bit of Walt’s opening solo album track “Down in the Bottom”.

    “Come Back Baby” I at first didn’t think much of, as I didn’t think it had any of their distinctive sound. But then listening through it on the new “‘72 demo reel” video, what caught my attention was the eight funny chords with the almost monotone robotic vocals at the end of the chorus. Then I started noticing the words “My old man never told me how”, and from there, the entire chorus:

    𝘠𝘰𝘶’ve 𝘨𝘰𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦 𝘣𝘢𝘤𝘬 𝘣𝘢𝘣𝘺, 𝘐 𝘥𝘰𝘯’𝘵 𝘸𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘢 𝘴𝘢𝘺 𝘩𝘰𝘸 𝘭𝘰𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘵’𝘴 𝘣𝘦𝘦𝘯
    𝘧𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘥𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘐 𝘨𝘰𝘵𝘵𝘢 𝘬𝘯𝘰𝘸, 𝘕𝘖𝘞
    𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦 𝘣𝘢𝘤𝘬 𝘣𝘢𝘣𝘺 𝘐 𝘥𝘰𝘯’𝘵 𝘸𝘢𝘯𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘭𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘢𝘭𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘢𝘨𝘢𝘪𝘯
    𝘮𝘺 – 𝘰𝘭𝘥 – 𝘮𝘢𝘯 – 𝘯𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳 – 𝘵𝘰𝘭𝘥 – 𝘮𝘦 – 𝘩𝘰𝘸

    It’s pretty catchy (and funny), and a very soul-sounding song. (It brings to mind “The Thrill is Gone”). Should have been released; fits perfectly in the early 70’s.
    The vocals of the first part of the chorus sound a bit like Hall & Oates, and the chords of it remind me of some of the late disco of the early 80’s (Whispers, etc.) The verse lyrics and vocal melody are also typical SD.

    “Mock Turtle Song” (Resembling “Do It Again” or “Your Gold Teeth”) is the only other Becker lead (beside “Slang of Ages” on the last album), and though the songwriting is credited to Becker and Fagen, it’s actually an old poem called the “Lobster Quadrille”, by Lewis Carroll. It’s catchy refrain is “Will you, won’t you, will you, won’t you, won’t you join the dance?
    (Sounds very nice in this sung rendition! Similarly, “A Horse In Town”s refrain is “saddle up and ride, ride, rideridrideride…“. It’s a very psychedelic funk-sounding song).

    It’s said that Jay released these without authorization from Don and Walt. (Hence, appearing on all these almost bootleg sets, beginning in the 80’s).
    It’s good that they did get released. It shows what their original vision for their music was (before they had to make some room for commercialization to get their contract). Even though the sound quality is horrible, you still hear the elements that made them so distinguished. It sounds a bit “before their time”, but it’s so interesting to hear their interpretation of the styles of that period.

    It’s obvious the sound quality is bad, but I have to wonder why people (including they themselves) are so hard on it. Like here’s the Allmusic review for the “Android Warehouse” set:

    For about the thousandth time, these very early recordings by Walter Becker and Donald Fagen that have remained officially unreleased for a reason: they’re terrible and only vaguely resemble the actual Steely Dan that came years later. This is not to say that there is no merit to them, only very little, and only for those who are so obsessed by the Steely Dan legend they need to hear every bent note, of which there are plenty here. This is another shabby Dressed to Kill effort that should be avoided. Period.

    To me, it has every element that made them great. It was just a matter of them going from a 60’s/early70’s “psychedelic” sound to the late 70’s jazzy style that enhanced their ideas. It’s still interesting to hear their adaptation to that earlier sound we don’t normally associate them with.

    1.01 You Go Where I Go 2:00
    1.02 A Little With Sugar 3:27
    1.03 Roaring Of The Lamb 3:00
    1.04 Charlie Freak 2:34
    1.05 Sun Mountain 2:48
    1.06 Oh Wow It’s You 2:34
    1.07 Undecided 2:58*
    1.08 Caves Of Altimira 3:13
    1.09 Any World That I’m Welcome To 3:36
    1.10 More To Come 2:49
    1.11 Parkers Band 2:10
    1.12 Barrytown 2:40
    1.13 Brain Tap Shuffle 2:54*
    1.14 Brooklyn 5:32*
    2.1 Mock Turtle Song 3:23
    2.2 Yellow Peril 3:57
    2.3 Android Warehouse 2:09**
    2.4 A Horse In Town 2:49
    2.5 Ida Lee 3:33
    2.6 Stone Piano 2:14**
    2.7 Take It Out On Me 2:22**
    2.8 This Seat’s Been Taken 2:38
    2.9 Come Back Baby 4:01
    2.10 Don’t Let Me In 4:05
    2.11 Old Regime 3:07
    2.12 Soul Ram 2:03
    2.13 Can’t Function 3:56
    2.14 Let George Do It 3:00

    *More developed sounding production, on first disc
    ** Simple piano and vocals only, on second disc

    “You Got To Walk It Like You Talk It” soundtrack:

    A1 You Gotta Walk It Like You Talk It 2:47 (very catchy shuffle tune)
    A2 Flotsam And Jetsam 3:25 (an instrumental reworking of the title track)
    A3 War And Peace 1:33 (a drum track with random piano chords)
    A4 Roll Back The Meaning 3:39 (60’s sounding song resembling “Light My Fire”)
    A5 You Gotta Walk It Like You Talk It (Reprise) 0:37
    B1 Dog Eat Dog 3:36 (Only Fagen lead vocal; cross between old Chicago and Isleys’ “Live It Up”)
    B2 Red Giant/White Dwarf 7:47 (a long instrumental that resembles “Whiter Shade of Pale” a bit)
    B3 If It Rains 6:52 (a haunting piano ballad harmonically not too different from “Little Twelve Toes”)

    Revised track listing on modern CD release:

    Dog Eat Dog
    Red Giant/White Dwarf
    You Gotta Walk It Like You Talk It
    If It Rains
    Flotsam And Jetsam
    Roll Back The Meaning
    War And Peace
    You Gotta Walk It Like You Talk It (Reprise)

  14. Another one not about SD, but it perhaps shows part of where I got my taste in lively (rhythmic) music, that led me to like SD and others (and today is Stevie’s birthday, BTW, and he has a new song out for the “Scandal” TV show):

    Thought this was lost forever. The thing is, it looks different than the one I had as a child, so it took longer for me to find, but thankfully, it’s the same recording. On the one I had, Mother Goose was actually a goose with a huge rectangular orange bill that dominated the cover. (I’m just now realizing Mother Goose wasn’t really a goose, but rather, as shown, a human “mother”, who rides a goose).

    I of course, eventually outgrew it, but I still clearly remembered many of the songs, and it becamse the “standard” for nursey rhymes, for me.
    Much later, when our close friend had a child, and then around the same time began starting a daycare service, and used Hap Palmer’s “BabySongs”, I was like “how monotonous!” The one I remembered the most was the one on the “potty”: “I have a potty of my very own; it has a rubber duckie to hold on to…”. Nearly everything else sounded just like that (there was IIRC, one “rap” entry on there, which was the only thing different).
    It reminded me of the tune on Romper Room toward the end when she calls out people’s names: Bomper, bomper, bomper, boo; tell me, tell me, tell me, do; Magic Mirror tell us today, can all our friends come out and play?” (And she never called my name!) It’s also nearly identical to the tune used at the end of Jeopardy, when the people have to think out their answer to the final clue. It’s basically a bass and guitar, with a xylophone, and a very simple eighth notes melody, like “Now I know my ABC’s/Twinkle Twinkle Little Star”. (Always wondered why they use such a babyish tune on a game show for adults. It’s now been redone and doesn’t sound quite as “Romper-roomish”).

    It was then I wanted to find the old record, which was most likely still in our family’s large collection in my father’s house (anchored by all his jazz albums), and put it on a recordable CD for the daycare, but having moved several times since I last saw the album, a lot of stuff was still packed up, so I wasn’t finding it.
    More recently, I began looking for it on YouTube, but still wasn’t finding this particular one. (Wondering if I saw this video, but gave up on playing them, looking for the cover I remembered).

    I was told that young children need the simplicity, but this Mother Goose album was able to not be so monotonous. (As stated and explained above in the OP, I hate monotony in music).
    The instrumentation is actually similar; a bass, xylophone (and or bells at times), and wind instruments (flute, bassoon, probably oboe, etc). You’ll hear a piano and violin very briefly in one or two places (like around “Pussycat, Pussycat”, “Pease Porridge Hot”, and “Lucy Locket”. “Hey Diddle Diddle” has a fiddle, naturally).

    I know, that when I entered both a music-themed nursery school and the auditorium “assemblies” of grade school, and the only instrument we sang to was a piano (and rather stereotypical old cranky female “music teachers” barking orders at us), the instrument came to represent “conformity” and limitation of creativity (though it was of course heavily used in jazz and popular music. But those forms also had a lot of variety in sounds). Also, much later, when determining what made Stevie’s “Contract 2” era sound so distinct, and found a large part of it was its lack of the string orchestration nearly universal in the rest of R&B and even pop, in addition to classical (and the same for SD’s entire run, save two songs). So that too came to represent “convention”. Other kid stuff that was more orchestrated, like Mary Poppins, I thought were corny or “schmaltzy” as well.

    There was also the “dry” sound of Church hymns, also often done on a piano, or for bigger churches, a pipe organ. (And also accompanying this in some churches, a doctrine that anything more modern or livelier was sinful). That style was deliberately “melody” focused, and its advocates looked down on stuff like dance music, which was “rhythm”-focused, and even Jazz which was heavily “harmony”-focused.
    These nursery songs were a nice balance of all three, with lively melodies that didn’t diminish the harmonies and rhythm like other stuff.

    So it seems this nursery rhyme album helped shape my “unconventional” taste in musical elements, even though the general style is basically “standard”. It even sounds a lot like the Johnny Mathis Christmas stuff I listen to every fall/winter (again, minus the piano and orchestration. The opening of the first song, “Old Mother Goose”, with its bright xylophone, even resembles Johnny’s opener to his 1986 Christmas album “It’s Beginning to Look Like Christmas”, with the common, contemporary “digital electric piano” sounding nearly just like the xylophone). So it’s basically a common 50’s-60’s sound, which was “conventional”, but in these cases, was done really spritely and rhythmically.
    The only name of the performers that can be found on these more modern album credits are “The London Rhymers and Singers

    Other nice touches are sound effects. Like whenever some kind of whipping is mentioned, you’ll hear a whipping sound on the beat! In “There Was A Crooked Man”, I noticed for “cat”, you have a violin or something emulating a high pitched meow, and for “mouse” something that sounds like their “squeak”.

    Among the ones I remember the most:

    The opener, from what I see, seems to be a unique version of the song. I can’t seem to find the exact lyrics for this version online.

    The first verse, agreed upon by all:

    Old Mother Goose,
    When she wanted to wander,
    Would fly through the air
    On a very fine gander. has the second verse parallel the first one, Father Gander “riding a very fine goose” (“when the air was fine and loose”). The second verse on the record was “Mother Goose had a house that was built in the woods, where an owl at the door for a sentinel, stood”.

    This version has her flying off on a broom (is she a witch?) and then having lunch with the man in the moon, and dessert with Little Jack Horner

    This one covers the first and third verses up to Jack buying the goose, and then jumps to the final verse of the mother flying up to the moon.

    This one has the first four, then adds “Jack’s goose and her gander
    Grew very fond; They’d both eat together, Or swim in one pond.” then does the next verse where the goose lays the egg, but then abruptly ends with “Jack rode to his mother, The news for to tell. She called him a good boy, And said it was well.”

    Now this one, is the same as the previous one; but adds the rest of the story and then some after it. HOWEVER, instead of “knave”, it’s “Jew”! 😮

    The version on the record:

    Jack sold his gold egg
    To a rasc’lly knave,
    Not half of its value
    To poor Jack he gave.

    The knave and the Squire
    Came up at his back,
    And began to belabour
    The poor sides of Jack.
    (you can hear that “whipping” sound I mentioned!)

    And then the gold egg
    was thrown into the sea;
    But Jack, he jump’d in,
    And got it back presently.

    The knave got the goose,
    Which he vow’d he would kill,
    Resolving at once
    His pockets to fill.

    Jack’s mother came in,
    And caught the goose soon,
    And, mounting its back,
    Flew up to the moon.

    The one in the link changes “rascally knave” into “To a rogue of a Jew, Who cheated him out of the half of his due.” “Knave” is likewise replaced in the other two instances as well.
    One slight difference is “They threw the gold egg in the midst of the sea”. It also adds, inbetween, another verse:

    Then Jack went a-courting
    A lady so gay,
    As fair as the lily
    And sweet as the May.

    This is followed by the two crooks coming up and attacking him and taking the egg. Now that makes a bit more sense (i.e. than them appearing to attack him at the same time he bought it from them).

    Horrible how they throw such negative stereotypes into something as innocent as a children’s rhyme, and thought nothing of it. Now, it has to be hidden (that was likely the original, and obviously why they would change or drop the later lines. Thankfully, Golden Records restored more of them, stripped of the derogatory references).

    “Jack Sprat” came to mind when I got married, and I would eat no pork, and she would eat no shellfish, “and so between us both you see, we were strictly kosher clean!
    (Perhaps to make it rhyme, we could substitute “crust-ay-ceen”? It would have to be really squeezed in there; the two syllables of “shellfish” were already stretching it! I would have to replace my name with something with at least one syllable each, if not also rhyming with “pork”.
    I had forgotten the rest of the song; i.e. it has several verses outside of the opening chorus. Having become a bit of a running gag, it’s what I played for her when I told her I found this).

    It came to mind again in more recent years, when I noted all the “Christmas” songs that talked about snow, but most of the snow was after Christmas. As soon as Christmas, with its red and green theme, is beginning to pass, then red Valentines Day cards, candy and decorations appear in stores, and after that, green St. Patrick’s Day stuff. Feeling that Christmas should really have been later in the winter when the weather actually matches the songs, it seemed Valentines and St. Patricks together sort of filled in for it.
    So I created a meme for Facebook (that I thought was ingenious, but has been completely slept on):

    “Valentines are red; weather’s fit for a sled
    St. Patrick’s is all green
    And so between them both you see,
    It’s a classic Christmas scene”

    “Old Mother Hubbard” was memorable, because it was originally (at least as known to me) a simple two line poem with a sad ending. The dog has no bone; that’s that. However, this song builds it up into a silly sequence of things the dog does (“She went to the seamstress, To buy him some linen, When she came back The dog was spinning…”).

    Here’s another one (like Old Mother Goose) that’s hard to find this version of, but this one has the whole thing and more.

    It starts on a more somber note (omitted from the song version), of her buying the dog bread, only to find him dead, and then buying him a coffin, only to find him laughing [that doesn’t rhyme!].
    Then, picking up with her going to get him tripe. Omitted from this site, but in the song was “went to the fish market to buy him a fish, but when she came back, he was licking the dish“. Another two verses omitted from the song were about her getting him alcoholic drinks!
    The next eight verses are the same, with the song concluding on “The dame made a curtsy, The dog made a bow, The dame said ‘your servant’, The dog said bow–wow“, but the site adds another ten verses (culminating in the dog getting a bride) and then repeats the final verse changed to “The bride made a curtsy, The dog made a bow, The dame wished them joy, They both said bow-wow”

    This one keeps it short, but gives it a happy ending in the second verse by having bones rain down from the shy. Perhaps that was the original, but the poem book I had apparently only had the first verse.

    I would also be reminded of the rhyme in preteens, when Cornell University produced a kids PSA for weekday syndicated TV with Muppet-like puppets called “Old Grandma Hubbard”, where she and the dog would open the cupboard to find a different character (such as the “Junk Food Monster”, or someone imitating Carmen Miranda with fruit on her hat) who sings the healthy message of the day.

    “Solomon Grundy” would be constantly reminded, when it became the name of a DC “Legion of Doom” character. “Grundy” was also the old teacher on the Archies.

    “Simple Simon” was hearkened back to by a Batman villain from the 60’s cartoon (that reran in the late 70’s) called “Simon the Pie-man”. In the song, Simon goes to the pie man, rather than being the pie man.
    The xylophone does a groove under the song that resembles the synthesized groove of the “Popcorn Song” that came out when I was little. The rhythmic structure also resembles an old Hebrew chant; similar to the “Jehovah Jireh” song, and a little bit like “God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen” as well.

    “Deedle Deedle Dumpling” (“my son John; went to bed with his stocking on; one shoe off and one shoe on, deedle deedle dumpling, my son John”) would remind me of my mother scolding me about having mismatch socks, or just in general, sighing “my son…!”
    (And recall, when Shan restarted the old “Bridge War” beef a couple years ago, one of KRS’s responses included “deedle, deedle, deedle”, which is a “filler” tactic he often used to complete a line, like the one in “The Bridge is Over”; and then Shan responded in one of the interview videos calling him a “Care Bears rapper”. I wonder now if this nursery song is what Shan had in mind when saying that).

    “Georgie Porgie” was of course in the late 70’s made into a funky rock-R&B song (with a jazzy chorus sung by disco singer Cheryl Lynn) by rock group Toto (who were close to Steely Dan, and recorded with the band, and thus influential in songs like “Any Major Dude”). Georgy Porgy would play heavily in ’82-3 on KISS radio (where I became really familiar with it, along with the hits from the concurrent Toto IV album) and would be remade by Eric Benet in the late 90’s.

    “This Little Pig” I was reminded of around 10 years ago when Nintendo announced it was calling its then new system the “Wii” (which I thought was ridiculous). It’s obviously a play on “weeeee!”, as used at the end of this song. So on whatever Nintendo board I was on at the time (probably the old NSider forum, which is long gone), I made up a spoof of the song, where “this little kid” gets one game or the other, while the last one gets to go “Wii, Wii, Wii Wii, Wii Wii all the way home!”

    Edit: OK, just thought up the whole thing:

    This little kid went to Game Stop
    This little kid stayed home;
    This little kid got PlayStation
    This little kid got none;
    And this little kid, got WiiWiiWiii, WiiWiiWii WiiWiiWii
    And this little kid brought Wii, Wii, Wii Wii, Wii Wii all the way home!

    “Pease Porridge Hot” I used when I was a little older, to tease a kid in my building, who had “peasy hair” (when a little black kid’s hair is short and uncombed; smaller “naps” basically; the term was used on Run DMC’s “Rock Box” and Kurtis Blow’s “I’m Chillin'”). “Pease porridge on your head, nine years old” I sang!

    “Little Tommy Tucker” I remembered as a young Christian adult, both needing to find a living, and also wanting to be married, but not finding anyone. “How shall he marry, without ‘ere a wife?
    I also remember being fed white bread and butter at the Alexander’s food counter in Kings Plaza one Christmas, when about to visit Santa there. I hate both plain white bread, and butter by themselves (as well as plain white milk), but felt I better make myself eat it, to be “good” for Santa!

    “Peter, Peter, Pumpkin Eater” has a very memorable, catchy progression with its bouncy eighths notes melody/rhythm (used on Tom & Jerry with Spike & Tyke episode “Slickered Up Pup” where Tom is charged with keeping Tyke clean, and Jerry then engages him in a game of tic-tac-toe, right on Tyke’s body!)
    “Tom, Tom, The Piper’s Son” is somewhat similar.

    “Lucy Locket” is the same tune used on the first part of “Yankee Doodle”, basically.
    Similarly, “Goosey, Goosey, Gander” and “Wee Willie Winkle” must be what made the hymns “He Lives” and “In The Garden” sound a bit familiar; both having “He walks with me, and talks with me”, which resembles the “upstairs and downstairs”, (“and in my lady’s chamber” or “in his night gown”) hook of both rhymes. There was also a “Winnie Winkle”, which was a Tribune syndicated comic strip in the 70’s and before.

    “Dickery Dickery Dare” is almost the same tune as “Three Blind Mice”, even down to the overlaid vocals.

    “Taffy was a Welshman” was not a well known rhyme, but for some reason was my favorite back then. (Something about the rhythm. It was different from most of the others with its regular 4/4 time and simple “cut time” bassline, low pitch singing and wind background. In between verses it steps up to 4/4 bass, and the xylophone doing eighths notes). It was waiting for the record to get to that one that made me more familiar with all the ones leading up to and following it. It was here I learned what “marrow” was!
    “Dr Fell”; I didn’t remember the song at all, but the interesting rhythm came back to me.

    Some others that were very memorable:

    “Hey Diddle Diddle”, for “the Cow jumped over the moon” (this appears in the Scooby and Scrappy short “Scooby Saves The World”) and “the dish ran away with the spoon” (the title of a 1933 WB “Merrie Melodie”).
    Also, “Him Diddle Riddle”, which was a Powerpuff Girls episode about the red-devil character called “Him”, who had kidnapped the Professor and left a string of riddles for the girls to solve.

    “To Market, To Market, to buy a fat pig; home again, home again, jiggety jig
    To market, to market, to buy a fat hog; home again, home again, jiggety jiggety jiggety jiggety jog!”

    The “see saw” song: “See Saw, Margery Daw; Jenny shall have a new master
    She shall have but a penny a day, because she won’t work any faster

    The King of France. With 40,000 men. Marched up the hill. And Then marched down again.
    The King of France. With 40,000 men. Gave a salute. And then marched down again.

    “I had a little nut tree,
    Nothing would it bear,
    But a silver nutmeg
    And a golden pear;
    The King of Spain’s daughter
    Came to visit me,
    And all for the SAKE
    Of my little nut tree.

    “Ding Dong Dell, Pussy’s in the well
    Who Put her in? Little Johnny Green
    Who pulled her out? Little Johnny Stout
    What a naughty boy was that
    to try to drown poor Pussy Cat
    Who never did him any harm
    but killed the mice on Papa’s farm

    (These rhymes made it seem like “Johnny” and “Jack”, and occasionally others like “Peter”, were the only boy’s names!)

    “One Two, Buckle My Shoe” (didn’t recognize the final words as “my plate’s empty”). This one also came to mind in Transit “school car”, when they were teaching us the radio codes, and a derailment is 12-6 “pick up sticks“!

    “The Old Woman Who Lived In A Shoe” would be reminded me by Riis’ “Court At No.24 Baxter St.” photo showing a bunch of impoverished women and children around the rear court entrance to a converted distillery complex they also apparently likely lived in.
    Now, forward 108 or so years (and about 12 years since I first saw the photo), and literally just yards from this site (toward Pearl St.) I’m in my old job, my desk next to a West Indian guy who was always talking about Benny Hill, who had just died when I started there four years earlier. So originally, he would tease another worker with offering to give him “Benny Hill” smacks to the head (like the comedian always did to the little old guy on his show named Jack Wright), and another coworker was calling him “Nino” for some reason. When I got involved in their banter, then the first guy started trying to do it on me. (And I would try to return them, and we both called each other “Benny”. An old southern lady who worked nearby would say “Why you hit him in the heayid?!“). He basically did it wrong, being too heavy handed, and also moving all over the place. This reminded me of “whipped ’em all around” (and you hear that “whipping” sound again in the song! When listening to this, I asked my mother why she whipped them for no reason at all, and she said probably “for good measure”, which was my first time hearing that expression, though I still didn’t understand what it meant).
    Also, he would sometimes give me an extra banana he had (which he called “monkey food”. The term was actually once used on Ed, Edd & Eddy); or peanuts, but then, he would try to give me a Benny Hill, saying “I feed ya; I beat ya!” This too reminded me of the song.

    So it put it all together:

    There was an old Benny,
    who lived in a shoe*
    He had so many ‘nino’s
    he didn’t know what to do
    He gave ’em monkey food
    WITH** some bread
    then he whipped ’em all around
    on the top of their heads

    *Since this took place literally in the Five Points, we could call it “The Old Shoery”!
    **(i.e. “Talking Pee Wee” Herman doll commercial: “Banana sandwich? Arrgghh!“)

    I’m very influenced by Weird Al! (Must be a fellow extraverted iNtuitive!) And this coworker is so funny; I had done dozens of similar songs about him, as well as imitating a lot of his Jamaican accented sayings. (Also a long running gag in my household). Like when he used to “load me up” (put junk, or “furreignobjects” in my possession when I’m not looking, including a picture of Benny Hill, J&R catalogues from the Park Row store, or his old Lotto tickets), and then said “Not Me!”, and so I redid Shaggy’s reggae hit “It Wasn’t Me” for him, and it fit perfectly! The same with turning Nat King Cole’s “Toys For Tots” into “Taps for Tops” (“The joy of living is in the GIVING!”. Also, “Deck the Halls” into “deck the heads with Benny Hilling; fa la la la… ‘Tis the season to be GIVING…”. When I showed him a whole page of these spoofs, he says “Ya hahv nuttin’ betta-tahdooh”!
    He would quote “De Bibel say ‘It’s blesst to GIVE!'” In both “Benny Hilling”, and my family’s long running game of “gilling” [hard hand rubs across the neck], “giving” and “receiving” are ambiguous. When one reaches over to do the thing to the other, it’s technically “giving” but it’s also called “getting” or “receiving”. Like with gills, we would say “save mines“, or even “gimme mine”, even though the other person is technically “receiving”. The guy at work would likewise demand his “fare share” of Benny Hills. So I would twist it around between both meanings, so that I would always be the one doing the smacking, whether it was called me “giving”, him “receiving”, or me “receiving”, him “giving”. Meanwhile, if I loaded him up, he would say “Imobeatdahelloatayou!”).

    The guy they used to tease was somewhat “tubby”, his name was Robbie, but in the West Indian accent of the other guy, sounded like “Rubbie!” and so reminded me of “Rub a Dub Dub, Three Men In A Tub“. I used to think of him and a couple others as the “Three men”, and the guy who called him “Nino” also used to call him “the Butcher”, because he looked like one when his work smock would become dirty from all the dusty court files he would be carrying to the counter, and he lives not far from the “Meat Packing District”. So I would imitate that guy, and say “thah Butcher, thah Baker, thah Candlestick maker”. He would also say “DAH-MBO!” (He was an old Italian guy who stretched all the vowels out all nasalized like that, i.e. “Neeenoo!“; his name was Tom, I used to call him “Tah-m Bah-sley” who he sounded like, and a younger Italian guy who worked with him then became “Fonzie”). So every time I see either the Disney character, or the Brooklyn waterfront neighborhood named that (Down Under the Manhattan Bridge Overpass), I still think it in the guy’s voice.

    Another favorite was “The House That Jack Built“. It’s the same sort of song as “Twelve Days of Christmas” (where you keep adding new elements to the previous ones which you then sing over and over every verse). Harry Belafonte’s unique version which was in some ways similar to this (especially the faster, more layered later verses), was my favorite on the album.

    I also would later like the premise of it, when becoming familiar with Tom & Jerry later in the 70’s, and how Spike the dog would often come to the aid of Jerry Mouse. (Particularly, “The Bodyguard” where he tells Jerry to “just whistle”, “Fit to Be Tied”, where he gives Jerry a bell, “The Truce Hurts”, where they’re all chasing together and then try to become friends, and “That’s My Pup”, where Spike is now teaching his son Tyke to chase Tom).
    You of course also had the cat and bird pair of Sylvester and Tweety, with dogs or other characters coming to Tweety’s aid. I then wished they would get “smart” and find a bigger character to protect them from the dogs.

    There was a similar poem, “I Know An Old Lady” where you have a similar extended chase. In the “The House That Jack Built”, the cat chases a mouse, and in the latter, it’s a bird. In both, the cat is chased by a dog (of course).
    One anomaly, is that in the former, the dog is “tossed” by a cow, while in the latter, the cow chases a goat, who in turn chases the dog. So to make them match, I wished a goat would be added to the House that Jack Built.

    The premise would be the “double-negative” symmetry of “The enemy of my enemy is my friend” (which in real life doesn’t always work like that); but extended several-fold.

    In “I Know an Old Lady”; it’s cow chases goat chases dog chases cat chases bird chases spider chases fly. The old lady starts off swallowing the fly, and then has to successively swallow the others to catch the previous one. The conclusion, “I don’t know why, she swallowed the fly; I guess she’ll die”. She concluded by swallowing a horse. It doesn’t say the horse was supposed to catch the cow, but this is then what finally does her in. (So the poem doesn’t then repeat the rundown of all the other animals she’s swallowed).

    In “The House that Jack Built”, it’s not actually all chase; just one character does something (whether good or bad) to the next, until after the cow, where it becomes chase:

    This is the farmer sowing his corn
    That kept the cock that crowed in the morn
    That woke the priest all shaven and shorn
    That married the man all tattered and torn
    That kissed the maiden all forlorn
    That milked the cow with the crumpled horn
    That tossed the dog that worried the cat
    That killed the rat that ate the malt
    That lay in the house that Jack built.

    This version: adds “the horse and the hound and the horn That belonged to the farmer sowing his corn”. (Which is redundant since “horn” is already used as well as a dog! It’s good in that it adds a horse like the other poem, but the horse would be on the cow’s side if they were all chasing).

    Then, being more into Tom & Jerry than Looney Tunes, I much later run across what’s technically the second Pepe LePew cartoon, but isn’t usually recognized as him (but it’s by character creator Chuck Jones; looks just like him, and even features the same musical “stings” that accompanies his hopping). Called “Fair and Wormer”, it’s a completely different story format, of a multiple chase similar to these rhymes, instead of him romantically pursuing a female cat disguised as a skunk. (They were obviously experimenting with him in this early period. His debut film had him chasing a male cat, and the next one had him chasing a female dog, then another director, Art Davis, did another different format, of him competing with a dog for a warm bed. [This one does get considered Pepe more, despite being by a different director]. He also chases a female wildcat, before settling on the final female cat character).

    So in “Fair and Wormer”, Pepe chases an angry housewife, who chases (with rolling pin) her husband the dog catcher, who chases dog, who chases cat, who chases bird, who chases worm.
    The worm, being at the bottom of this chain, even reasons the whole “enemy of my enemy” premise, and then gets the cat on his side, starting the whole multiple chase. (Pepe, at the ‘top’ of the chain is really just hopping along, and the wife —and eventually, all of them, just see him and run; his odor being the most feared weapon of all!)

    When I saw this, it really made me wish this would be done for Tom & Jerry. (Even the music for this “House that Jack Built” rendition is sort of fitting, being not too different from some of the Scott Bradley score of the original series with the wind instruments). Adding a goat would go well in the Tom & Jerry canon, since Tom gets chased by a bull (in “Texas Tom”, and angering one in “Posse Cat” and 1980’s made for TV “Get Along Little Jerry” —which has been playing every day on Boomerang these days). The bull, chasing the goat, would then be on Spike and ultimately Jerry’s side, and thus still an antagonist to Tom. Having a horse chase the bull would be naturally justified, if you have him being rode by a cowboy— cowboy chases cow!

    So a cowboy chases the bull, who chases a new goat character, who chases Spike, who chases Tom, who chases Jerry, who opens the story by being shown sneaking to swipe a malt in the house. I would begin it by picking up on the “Spike gives Jerry a whistle or bell as a reward for helping him” theme of “Bodyguard” and “Fit to be Tied”, and then Tom realizes he can find a stronger ally, with another calling signal (perhaps a police whistle, like the black cat gives to a kitten being bullied by a dog on the Tex Avery “Bad Luck Blackie”? Though the Chuck Jones counterpart to Spike does give Jerry a police whistle in “Much Ado About Mousing”. Tom does initially get wise enough in this one to get the dog catcher to take the dog, but this only leads to Jerry officially teaming up with the dog, with the whistle as a reward for freeing him).

    I would end this one by having Spike once again suggest “burying the hatchet”, and pointing to the bad influence on “the next generation”, of Tyke, Topsy (the little kitten who sometimes appears in the films) and Nibbles, making a closing cameo carrying on the chase with the bat, frying pan and pipe from “The Truce Hurts”. (Sort of like the Looney Tune where the aged Foghorn and dog relive their old antics, and then conclude by watching their children doing the same stuff to each other. I wouldn’t bother giving the other characters new “young apprentice” characters, since these three are already established, and you would get the point of the punchline. I always thought those three characters should have been the “Tom & Jerry Kids”; Tiny Toons style, instead of making Tom & Jerry young, while keeping Spike, Tyke, and even Nibbles/Tuffy the same age —and while giving Droopy a son!)

    To cover both stories and franchises, while “The House That Jack Built” would be adapted for Tom & Jerry, “I Know An Old Lady” would be fitting for Sylvester and Tweety. You already got the “old lady” in Granny, (and she has been portrayed as a bit “batty” in a couple episodes), though you wouldn’t have her eating Tweety of course, nor even sicing Sylvester on him! So it would have to be retooled in some way (like she doesn’t actually “eat” them; perhaps it starts with trying to get rid of a fly in the house, and maybe Sylvester just sees Tweety and comes after him as usual without her getting him. Or perhaps like “Sandy Claws”, where Granny does actually send Sylvester after Tweety, to save him from a high tide, not knowing Sylvester’s purpose is really of course to eat him).
    The thing is, Tweety would actually lose his “innocence”, and now be chasing and trying to eat someone himself. Though he did actually eat a worm in his debut film “Tale of Two Kitties”. (He wasn’t quite as “innocent” back then. Though in a later one, “Fowl Weather”, he’s so naive, he thinks a worm is a “piece of spaghetti” and aims to protect him from the danger of the chickens eating him, rather than trying to eat him himself.
    We could build this upon Freleng’s 1944 “Meatless Flyday” and bring over the memorable spider and fly characters. The spider being rather dopey and overconfident would fit on Sylvester’s side against Tweety).

    Again, the “horse” could be with a cowboy. For the goat, perhaps use “Gabby” from an old B&W Porky cartoon, who was replaced by Daffy when that film was redone for color. With MGM, the only notable goat character was “Billy Boy”, who accompanied the Daws Butler voiced “Jubalio” whistling country wolf; but he’s too young and light-natured to have him chase Spike in Tom & Jerry.

    Anyway, it’s like this stuff never left me; like I’ve heard it regularly, recently, yet it’s been well over 40 years!

    Here’s the track listing: (ones I clearly remembered in bold)

    01 Old Mother Goose
    02 Fiddle-De-Dee
    03 I Had A Little Nut Tree
    04 The Cat And The Fiddle
    05 Georgie Porgie*
    06 The Queen Of Hearts
    07 There Was A Crooked Man
    08 Simple Simon*
    09 Peter, Peter, Pumpkin Eater
    10 Solomon Grundy
    11 Deedle, Deedle, Dumpling
    12 The King Of France
    13 This Little Pig
    14 Taffy Was A Welshman
    15 Old Mother Hubbard
    16 The House That Jack Built
    17 Little Robin Redbreast
    18 Pease Porridge Hot
    19 Little Tommy Tucker
    20 Pussycat, Pussycat
    21 Lucy Locket
    22 To Market, To Market
    23 Ding Dong Bell
    24 Hickety Pickety
    25 Wee Willie Winkie
    26 Jack Sprat
    27 I Saw A Ship Sailing
    28 Dr. Fell
    29 Goosey, Goosey, Gander
    30 Dickery Dickery Dare
    31 An Old Woman Who Lived In A Shoe
    32 One, Two, Buckle My Shoe
    33 Rub-A-Dub-Dub
    34 See-Saw, Margery Daw
    35 Tom, Tom, The Piper’s Son
    36 Ride A Cock-Horse

    *These I remembered the rhyme, from them being familiar, but not as much the music.

    (The one I had had a second disc with lesser known songs such as “Little Bobby Shaftoe”, but we didn’t play that one, because I had apparently scratched it up when I was really, really young, before I even remembered. Looking for this one online, it may have been “A Golden Treasury of Mother Goose and Nursery Songs” (1958) by the Sandpiper Chorus and Mitch Miller (, perhaps bundled with the other one as a special double LP. That would explain my thinking I remembered at least one song on both discs and we see “Pussycat, Pussycat” on both. I also remember it as sounding different, and not quite as good as the first disc, which would figure if it was recorded by other musicians).

  15. (to “Kings”, Steely Dan):

    cops shoot down an unarmed child
    says the kid was acting wild
    you’re marching all the time, but need to protest all the crime
    need to stop the whinin’
    and start ladder climbing

    You haven’t done enough…
    to make things better
    so hang your head
    it’s how the cards …. shall fall
    This is _ life
    the way the world goes
    so pound your chest
    and suck in hard

    jobs want skill and confidence
    girls are drawn by alpha men
    you need to get off your hide; for oo-nly the strong survive
    protect and stay alive
    for to prosper and to thrive


    This came to me, initially based on the whole cop shooting thing, where they say we should clean up urban crime instead of protesting cop shootings. So I would think/ask, “are we supposed to just ‘hang our heads’ and accept being shot?”, and I heard it in the melody of that part of the chorus of the song. Then, one time, when I was discussing life with my brother, and he said you sometimes have to just pound your chest and sigh/inhale (he did the motion of it), in accepting things.

  16. Someone actually overlaid these two very similar choruses! (Actually, Hakwright, the same guy who has the page on the different mu chords!)

  17. Here’s another soul-stirring song from the past (mentioned in the OP, so I’m kind of surprised I never did an entry on it): Sade’s “Maureen“. This was from her second album, in ’85, probably from the summer, when I was home from college, and heard it on KISS (even though it was never a single. May have also heard it on the station down in college, but not sure).

    Her style being particularly jazzy, it is dominated by a simple piano harmony/melody, where as I’ve mentioned, most songs of the time were increasingly turning toward digital sounds. (so she is someone who held onto the acoustic piano sound more than others of the time). So it, to me, always conveyed a “warm, sunny weekend afternoon in the city” kind of feel, similar to the Black Ivory (“I’ll Find A Way”), Billy Joel (“Rosalinda’s Eyes”) and Cece Peniston (“I’m Not Over You—Flava Mix”) tunes discussed above, and not too different than something Donald Fagen could have done, and the general SD sound.

    But like the Billy Joel and Black Ivory songs, there’s a very sad undertone behind the sound; one of loss, this time, death of a friend, instead of romantic abandonment. I never paid too much attention to words back then, though it was impossible to miss the opening and closing fadeout refrain You’ll never meet my new friends. This rhyming with I’m never gonna see you again. As time went on, I noticed more some of the other words. This person really meant a lot to her! “You’re a pearl in my world, and I miss you…” Not very wordy, it was about a young adulthood or adolescent friend she would go partying with; her reminiscing her mother saying “Sade, don’t you come home too late. ‘Till you’re back, I stay awake” (The personal reference indicating to the listener that it is likely a real life story), and them checking out guys together (“He looks good; Let’s hope he can dance”). And something about “Walking along the subway” (this would have taken place where she grew up in England, but to me of course, not even knowing where she was from, evoked images of NYC).
    So they were just living life and enjoying each other’s presence (perhaps taking it all for granted, as just normal development), and apparently, the friend suddeny committed suicide. According to this album review from back then:

    ” ‘Maureen’ is personally my favorite song on the album, because it’s about a friend who died five years ago,” she continued. ”I didn’t want it to be sad or self-indulgent but to represent the joy and good times we had together. I think of it as a happy tribute. The song came almost like magic. It was written in two hours.” (On this lyrics page on the side review bar, is added the detail that it was suicide, and also a likely later hindsight: “She regretted writing this song because of how private she was. She felt that the parents of Maureen would also be affected by the song.”
    I can imagine so!

    So this person must have died around 1980, when the future singer was 21 (“Sade” is actually the band she formed two years later under another band, and the first singles and album on their own two years after that. Which would be another major life milestone the friend would never see. If they swere so close, would she have been in the band, even? Or at least benefit from having a now rich superstar best friend. The first song I heard, on the radio was “Hang On To Your Love”, which also was not a single when I first heard it earlier in the year, but entered the chart at the end of the year. It reminded me of Marvin Gaye, who had just died, particularly “I Want You”, which was what the station in the store I was passing by was playing when announcing he died).
    The “Loving you is Easy” they listened to I imagine was probably the disco song by British/Jamaican singer Jimmy James, from ’78. Don’t know if I ever heard it before. (I have to put everything together, with the dates and all, to get a better sense of its timeline context).

    Even without knowing the back story, it did affect me deep down inside, even though I had basically no experience of untimely death. The only deaths in the family were my paternal great grandmother (’76; 77yo), and my maternal grandfather (’82; in his 80’s, and had only seen him the two times I had spend summers at his sister’s house in central VA; didn’t even get to go to the funeral). There was my godmother in Harlem, who was a prominent figure in my earlier life, but fearing she was “spoiling” me too much (including with religion), my parents stopped me from staying up there after about 8yo, then she moved to Charlotte, stopped by one time after that, and died in ’81, probably in her late 60’s. I had been so removed and detached from her by that time, it hardly had any affect! The only untimely death I can think of, was a kid about a year younger than me on the block who got killed at a beach in ’83. (Forgot whether it was a drowning accident, or perhaps even a suspected racial incident. That at least crossed my and others’ mind, if not. Wasn’t terribly close to him, though, though I thought he was pretty cool and OK, basically).

    At this time in my life, my main concern was answering the call of the anima, and finding someone of my own, to have such love for (to no avail). So such songs would simply invoke an image of the perfect outing with this beautiful female I was in love with (and would feel similarly devasted if something happened to her). If the body of the song was a sunny day, the fadeout was late afternoon, as the sun is lower and coming strictlly from the west. Ideally, it would be the conclusion of a beautiful day with the loved one, and the liveliness of all the people around, heading off into the sunset followed by perhaps a night of nighttime fun on the town. But instead, you’re all alone throughout the day, even in the midst of all the other people, many of whom are with their lovers, and the fadeout represents having to just move on past the day, into the sunset, alone.
    A sort of followup to this song was “Keep Looking“, from the third album in ’88 (right before I went into the Air Force), and that sound of that one to me was more like the sun is setting and you’ve pretty much lost hope, and down in the depths of depair (it was overlayed with these descending whole note organ chords that conveyed that feeling), but the song is telling you to keep hoping on. As I was doing in my then still new “faith”.

    (Just imagine a quiet sunny Manhattan Sunday with this tune in the background, and then suddenly interrupted with the wakeup call of reveille in a “cold” looking barrack, thus heralding the sudden next phase of my life. One good thing, it was a distraction from these emotional pains. At least until I got out of boot camp, and love was in the air among the other newly “freed” trainees.
    The song also reminds me of riding the trains across one side of the Manhattan Bridge, and looking across at the lifeless tracks of the other side, connecting 6th Ave. which were being worked on, in the first phase of the 18 year emergency rebuilding program —my working for the agency by the time of the final phase!) The B and D were split in half; an awkward arrangement with the Brooklyn halves rerouted via Bwy.; instead of redesignating them, —like the original BMT routes they now recreated (they finally did redesignate them in the final phase); and also cutting off my old lifeline to the “life” of the rest of the city, and uptown, including Dad’s jazz show at Fordham, and several friends uptown; the Museum, earlier classes at the Lincoln Center campus; etc. We no longer lived on the Brighton, and he by then had a car anyway, but my nostalgia was in full bloom at the time, and I eagerly awaited the line to reopen. It did, one week after I left for boot camp!*

    What I had was a feeling of separation from the anima; in the form of the feelings I felt at a very young age, towards [contemporary] songs such as “I’ll Be There” (Jacksons), and Chicago’s “Do You Know What Time it Is” and “Beginnings”, and stuff like IIRC seeing some little girl in some little dress with her mother in a store with my mother, and feeling sad we were separating, probably never to [knowingly] cross paths again. (Thinking on this, I can now believe LGBT people when they say they sensed their orientation at such young ages. I was definitely set to be a red blooded, double-“platinum star”, Kinsey [“negative n“] heterosexual!)

    But again, picture this jazzy but sad sounding song, on a late Sunday sunny afternoon, while watching the unused tracks, blocked by work equipment, descend into the portal under Chrystie and Canal Sts. as you descend into the other portal to the alternate route, and the sun descends also. Night will fall soon, which could have been a time of continued fun. But in this case, you are alone, just hoping, if not already mourning. So instead of the cool nighttime air of the Fagen solo “Snowbound”, yet get “On the Dunes”, which to me sounds like an (ironically “romantic”) evening by the water (whether a beach, or a port-side restaurant overlooking the city skyline), where you can only watch other lovers, as the song laments.
    Also, a similar “sun going down and time running out” vibe to “Keep Looking” is both the sound and message of Eryka Badu’s “The Other Side of The Game”, which is a song of concern to a husband or baby daddy caught up in the dangerous world of hustling, in order to support the family. “What’chu gonna do when they come for you?” the sang repeats. (Actually second time hearing the common reggae line; and the first time being the funny Cartoon Planet spoof “Bad Bug”. I some time afterward looked up the original song. The Fender Rhodes chords ironically manage to be not too different from the more happy, lively Cece Peniston “Flava” mix!) That song (reminding me of Dad as it was, with its jazziness) had me place myself in that family, hoping Daddy would come home, but he might not, one day. My father actually doing some hustling earlier on, it could have been my family, though him always coming home, I didn’t even know it at the time!

    It would be another three (long, dark) years before I would find someone, and she happened to be a Sade fan, and had some of her cassettes (with a brand new album coming out that year), and so we listened to and talked about her often. If I remember correctly, when the subject of “Maureen” came up, she may have compared that friendship to her own, and how devastated she would be if that happened. Thinking about the words, the relationships did sound very similar. This was a person (the “messy ISTJ/Melancholy Compulsive” I’ve mentioned from time to time, as an example of not fitting into the typological stereotypes of neatness) she met in college orientation (the same year I entered college), and would be at each other’s houses, the friend sometimes staying with her and her mother, IIRC, and thus dealing with their mothers, and over the course of those eight years inbetween, hang out at clubs like the Palladium, or the Albee Square Mall arcade (I went there occasionally, and used to play the same “Marble Madness” game they enjoyed! We all may have crossed paths many times, beginning with my future wife growing up near my grandmother) and years later continue to recount their adventures.

    They had their little circle of friends from college [LIU] they still talked about, with all their quirks; like a guy who carried his record player with him everywhere, and like when I would mention songs, and my future bride would recount her experience of them, like one of the guys having to explain to her what the Prince-written “Sugar Walls” referred to (my lonely but dirty imaginitive mind in college pretty much figured it on my own, especially given Prince’s other stuff. I had read enough to know on my own that the sides of the anatomy’s canal were called “walls”. And so the guy blurted out to her “It’s her twat”, while I in turn would somehow never even hear of that word until boot camp four years later!) They watched movies and listened to other stuff, like Rick Astley, Pebbles, and the rest of the popular stuff of the time.

    They of course, also had their boyfriends; the friend, one from college, earlier on, and then the father of her daughter (who was conceived right after we met, and just now had her own gender reveal [a boy] with her fiance, at a combined July 4th cookout yesterday); and were together for years, until they finally broke up, and she married her current husband. The father does still come around for special occasions like yesterday. It was this past week, another recollection discussion between the two bff’s, probably in lieu of the occasion, that got me thinking of this song, and then deciding to write this entry).

    So when I came onto the scene, it was the solid established trio of the two bffs, and the friend’s boyfriend (and previously, my occasional predecessor, though never but so serious; or other male friends who were potential boyfriends. It was like a parallel of Tweety having a life with other pursuers before being permanenly paired with Sylvester, as discussed here or the Brooklyn BMT lines having a life with mostly Broadway services before the IND B and D were extended there).
    It felt like I had missed out all that time. They continued some of their old lifestyle, with me now added, earlier on, like eating out, and adding “Big Splash” annual summer weekends, but the friend eventually became much more sedentary (so true to her temperament), especially after the daughter was born, and my partner just got altogether tired of going anywhere on the subway. When we moved into our current apartment 12 years ago, we no longer lived in the same building.

    All of this was in total contrast to my life those same years. Not having any friends; just my father and his increasing alcohol-infused drama, cold, cutting lectures on “life” when he was sober, my mother going back and forth to Albany, and sometimes taking my brother with her, and when he was here, him and his little friends, and us playing Nintendo, them starting the “gilling” game I’ve kept alive ever since (rubbing your hand hard against the person’s neck when they say something stupid); and in the midst of all this; college, then the Air Force, and my fun, but minimum wage job at Alexander’s (and briefly, other places like Macy’s), and just wandering around the city and other states, by myself.
    So I would often try to compare what I was doing, during these times she was mentioning, and in turn, what she was doing at the time of memorable moments in my life. (Like I just figured out she got the job she still had when I came along, and they first got their own place, around the time I had the job at Macy’s; stuck and unable to move out, eventually prompting the desperate attempt at an escape into the military the following year! But it was interesting to know what this person I was so painfully waiting for, was doing at that time!)

    If something had happened to the friend, like before I came aound, it would have been “You’ll never meet my husband”. If it had been my future partner, then the friend would be the one to say to her “You’ll never see my daughter” (whose godmother she became in real life; and I of course, would have continued on my own, elsewhere; none the wiser. I had veered so much into my parallel experiences, perhaps as a distraction, as even writing this stuff is so emotion-stirring; bringing me almost to tears!)
    That is such a crushing feeling, even hearing someone else saying it. It’s like you’ve shared life together, probably taking for granted the mother’s interference, looking for partners, etc., but now your life has to go on (just like it did before), but with possibly exciting new experiences and developments, and yet the other person is gone for good. “What would they think about…”. (I would sometimes think about this in the event something happened to me. Like if she would afterward see something new like Twinkly lights for the first time, or some new Stevie Wonder song, or a new subway car, etc. and would have to wonder what I would think about them!) Meanwhile, if the friend had died, I would have to be wondering what she was like in person, as I hear about her and all her quirks, wit and wisdom, and their time together described. Both were real, but one is still here, but the other, gone. (Just like their cats. The friend’s cat had died, and I had these thoughts listening to them recount how both cats interacted with each other and them, and wondering what the other one looked like, and would have been like toward me, etc. yet now seeing only this one cat by himself, plus remembering first being told when I went off to college, that they do miss other beings as well. “Little people”! I often call them!)
    So it would have been quite a loss for me without the friend in our lives, not even having met her!

    However, for the person to commit suicide, things were seriously wrong, at least behind the scenes of the fun outings and togetherness. She obviously couldn’t have been happy. So the imagined alternate future of those interactions continuing and meeting the new friends, etc. may still not have occurred so nicely if she had stayed alive, as the pain leading her to end it all would have most likely been coming out in other ways, and perhaps escalating as time went on; maybe even ending the friendship anyway.

    It can be a cold, cold universe. “A place of great beauty, and danger”, as Tarzan would always say (to largely depressing but “hopeful” sounding “neo-Ellis” background score on the cartoon series). The sun can provide that pretty daytime setting, but can also burn you, and supposedly will consume the earth in the far future of its development. Life “gives” (things such as love), and then “takes away” (such as death). The fact I’m grappling with, is how “life” and “God” end up so easily interchangeable, in a scripture like the one referenced that naturally is attributing things to God, but Christians must “apologize” and explain a loving God over such a cruel, or at least randomly (and inconsistently and uncontrollably “good” or “bad”) universe, that’s much more readily/easily provable, and imposes itself, demanding our immediate attention and action (where God and His supposed “better world” is known only by [an inner] “faith”, which is so uncertain and malleable, thus men able to change it into thousands of different expressions); as living creatures must struggle to survive in a universe “trying to kill us” (i.e. it takes special energy to hold together the matter that makes up our bodies and our shelter and possessions, which natural forces are all trying to pull apart. And both romantic love as well as friendship, can ultimately be tied to “survival”. Friendship [< “safety in numbers”], along with work/trade, and power struggles against “enemies”, are about survival of the individual; and romance is ideally to lead to reproduction, which is survival of the species).
    Most try to direct the blame toward man himself (his “sin” and “Fall”), though the Cross was supposed to undo that, yet this was made (by the commonly accepted message) conditional on man’s repentance and right behavior, and since man is still sinning, then the universal benefits of the removal of the “curse” are presumed to be just pushed off to the afterlife (and that for relative few), which no one knows what it is like (as even a couple of scriptures admit), and many believe in a “soon” shortening of the universe’s time, that is for some unknown reason being pushed back indefinitely.
    So we remain in the universe trying to kill us (which is what leads to much of the behavior we call “sin” to begin with as we try to adapt to this, basically poorly, and at each other’s expense, often! Not sure what Sade’s beliefs are, but her solid “never” suggests she doesn’t seem to believe in the Judeo-Christian-Islamic [“Abrahamic”] concepts of a differentiated afterlife).

    All I can do is hope, that not only is the God of love true, but also, that He truly is operating in Grace, and not still judging on Law and “sin” (as most of religion presumes), where everyone is condemned (except for an “orthodox” [i.e. conservative] Christianity, including much of Trump’s base, presumed to include the “saved”), and that people can be reuinited with their “Maureen”s, never to be separated again, and to see each other’s new friends, new loves (however that is fulfilled; most Christians believe, based on Christ’s words to the Sadducees, that this won’t exist in the afterlife), or at least see the rest of the survivor’s life in retrospect, and then pick up where they left off. A human soul might be described as a chain of memories imprinted in the brain (defining our knowledge of who we are, who we like and dislike, love, work, etc. in addition to our instinctual drives) and like any other mathematically created object or data; some of them click together, creating love or friendship. I hope these things can still exist and interact, in their differentiated form, in whatever “eternity” is.

    (A life that constantly imposes itself as “reality” and makes anything spiritual, including a “divine” basis for things like the soul, and love, look unreal, is forcing me, in my “introverted Thinking” to break everything down to its basic elements, to look for meaning. Love and appreciation of beauty may have “natural” purposes connected to survival, but a bunch of shifting and changing matter did not need to be given sapience in order to take and keep its form; i.e. “survive”. I hope that’s the proof of existence beyond the material world, though it still doesn’t identify a particular source of it all).

    *I think way in the subconscious, my father might be at the center of all of this (and he figures in the OP, even!), as though he was still alive at that time, the relationship had deteriorated to almost violent episodes, and all I had left were those memories of him in younger and more livelier days, taking me around the city on sunny weekends, and to the radio station, which were my favorite memories of him, and at home still playing his music and doing his artwork.
    This project also got me thinking of the familiar “Cats in the Cradle” song, with “When I’m Coming home {Son/Dad} I don’t know when; but we’ll get together then, {Son/Dad}. You know we’ll have a good time then” as a predecessor to, and “living” version of “You’ll never meet my new friends”. Neither had died (the father; then the son when he grew up and was now similarly too busy with his life when the father in his old age now finally wanted to connect) so there was no “[you’ll] never…”, —yet; there was still hypothetically time to have those good times; but they nevertheless, were for now, still missing the other’s life, and death will eventually, perhaps soon, separate them for good. My father was always around, so it wasn’t a matter of being in my life; it was him not making it miserable (and under the aim of trying to do good, yet!)

    Aside from Coney Island and Riis Beach trips, I instead associated those traditional “father/son” outside adventure activities more with the superintendant, who was was like a grandfather, and I addressed as “Uncle”; and he did the stuff like fishing, cookouts, had a car when we needed one, etc. The last camping outing was when I was 8 [my father was there for the first one, two years earlier, but busy with school the remaining two years], and after that last trip, he promised “next year”, we would both wear our navy blue button down shirts [button downs made me feel like a man, appealing to my “masculine” side, so I looked forward to it], but we never did again; him citing needing to be around to take care of the building, as the neighborhood went down. (nine years later, it had gotten so bad, we moved, ending the first stretch of my life; and the year after that, he hit the lottery and got out of there himself; retiring to NC). This was another big factor in the extreme nostalgia for that 8 and younger period of my life and its trappings (music, TV, sights and sounds of the city, etc.) that developed shortly after, along with the Harlem godmother from the same period as well. Beebe’s treatment of the father in connection to the anima, is discussed here: See also

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